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My name is Sean Connelly, and I've gone by the pseudo-name Peebrain while on PsiPog.net. This blog was a running stream of my thoughts, beliefs, and experiences about PsiPog and psychic abilities in general.

Thursday, June 22, 2006

Reproducible Results

Hurray!

Using ErikJDurwoodII's ideas, JoeT and myself have reproduced results on my geiger counter.

So what exactly happened?

Erik came to me a couple weeks ago, and was excited about his ideas and theories, and that he would be able to test them out. If you don't know Erik, he's basically a mad scientist. He is very knowledgable in science, and has some really cool ideas. Plus he's down to earth at the same time, and while he has crazy ideas - he recognizes that they are crazy and can laugh about it. So he's a cool guy.

One night, he got JoeT and some other people on Skype. I wasn't there for that experiment, but he basically got a geiger counter, and something he called a transducer (I think?), and an oscilloscope. Using these devices, he had JoeT focus on the transducer, and by mistake he noticed his geiger counter going crazy. He checked the basics to make sure JoeT was the one actually affecting it, and it turned out correct.

So the next time I saw him, he was really excited about his first successful experiment, and told me his theories (which I barely understood) about what was happening. My reaction was to buy a geiger counter as fast as I could so I could reproduce it in my room .

I purchased the Black Cat System's GM-10 geiger counter for about $170 after shipping. When it arrived in the mail, I was really excited to test it out.

Erik first reproduced his experiment, but this time with me watching, so I could see how it was setup. Over his webcam, he showed me his geiger counter, transducer, and oscilloscope. First, I tried to get the geiger counter to go crazy, like he described JoeT doing it. I failed. Roy tried. He failed. So finally we invited JoeT to do it again... The average detection range for a geiger counter sitting in a normal room is anywhere from 8 to 25 counts per minute (CPM)... and it'll usually average between 12 and 15. When JoeT focused on it, he got the counter to max out at 47 CPM. Very significant.

So I was thrilled! I posted this entry in the blog out of excitement. However, we still hadn't reproduced the effect on my geiger counter. When JoeT tried, he was pretty burnt out, and we couldn't measure anything significant.

Just today, myself and JoeT were messing around with my geiger counter. Erik's counter is analog, but mine is digital, and I wrote a program to graph the results. Below is a 10 minute span of a normal graph:

Sorry it doesn't have any units on it, but basically the X axis is time (in seconds), and the Y axis is CPM. The normal resolution is 600 x 315 (600 seconds equals 10 minutes), but I resized it to make it fit in this blog. The green line represents the average, and the gray line represents the "highscore" (in the graph above, the highscore is 22 CPM).

When JoeT and myself were messing around, we tried a few different configurations.

1. 10:40am - First, JoeT tried sending to the geiger counter itself, without a live video feed. Nothing. (As a side note, Joe was really screwing up his monitor because he was using that as a sending point.)

2. 10:56am - Then I thought maybe the steel transducer in Erik's experiment was doing something, so I stuck a metal lock in front of my geiger counter (the next closest thing that I own

). And then I set up a live video feed for JoeT to target through. Still no luck. (As a side note, Joe did fry my internet connection at this point.)

3. 11:23am - I put some radioactive marbles in front of the counter so we could make sure the counter actually was working - and it spiked at 68 with the marbles. So the geiger counter was working fine, but we just wern't getting results.

4. 11:45am - So JoeT had the idea of putting a psiwheel in front of it, and Joe would try to move the psiwheel and see if the geiger counter was affected. Nada.

As usual, we were just sitting around talking in the chat, sort of thinking about what to do next.

[11:55] <JoeT> I can't hit the target for shit today. [11:55] <peebrain> it happens [11:56] <peebrain> I can't hit stuff right in front of me, so dont feel bad ;-P

After I sent that message, I thought to myself, "Well, I haven't actually played with a psiwheel in over a year... I could at least try."

So I focused on the psiwheel for maybe 30 seconds, just trancing out a little bit. I got a solid connection to the wheel, and "saw" the energy field around it. I started to play with it a little bit, and tried to spin in. It didn't spin, but it started to do the wobble thing (those who practice with psiwheel's probably know what I mean). Anyways, I looked up, and the graph had maxed out at 36 CPM! I freaked out. Joe kept telling me to try to do it again, but it was too late... I was already really excited and way too scatter brained to get into a trance again

. I took a screenshot of the graph:

You can see a clear spike in activity, and it's much higher than normal. It occurred exactly when I started focusing on the wheel, and ended exactly when I looked up and noticed the huge spike, and freaked out. You can see the gray line maxed out at 68 from messing with the marbles, at the very top (which we did 35 minutes prior).

Now that I've reproduced the effect on my end, I'm blown away. I'm definitly going to start practicing more, especially now that I have measurable results that I can compare against from day to day. If anyone wants to reproduce the experiment, there is more than enough information in this post to do so. If you'd like to use the same graphing software, you can contact me in the chat, or drop me an e-mail at: peebrain@psipog.net .

Exciting times!

~Sean

Thursday, June 22, 2006, 12:28 PM — 39 comments

39 Comments:

On June 22, 2006 4:20 PM, Lucidess said...: HOLY CRAP AWESOME!!!
On June 22, 2006 4:24 PM, hazake said...: Thats amazing......There now is a way to measure!

Also....Is your skype name personal, or do mind giving it out? I have skype, and I like to have as many people on my list as possable :)

(Andyourkindamyhero)
On June 22, 2006 5:22 PM, LOTRfool said...: WOW!!! That's awesome!!! I think this is a jump for finding out if it's heat or not. Now we can know for sure. Now to find a Geiger Counter...
On June 22, 2006 6:51 PM, Mad Hatter said...: This is very interesting...especially what this suggests the human mind can do. That is of course, if you're actually creating radiation not just messing with the circuitry of the Geiger counter. Cool experiment, very useful for proving psi to skeptics.
On June 22, 2006 8:11 PM, Anonymous said...: Is there any special way that your supposed to hook the stuff up?
On June 22, 2006 9:06 PM, Peebrain said...: No... my geiger counter connects to the back of my computer. I set the psiwheel in front of the sensor. Then try and spin the pinwheel.
On June 23, 2006 12:39 AM, ErikJDurwoodII said...: It all falls in to place ^__^

MWAHAHAHAH!
On June 23, 2006 12:45 AM, Anonymous said...: Very Very Interesting. I Just found this sight today and so far I have been impressed. Do you think someone with Attention Deficiet could learn to do what you do? I have skype as well..
On June 23, 2006 12:28 PM, Francis said...: Yahoo!!! Now there's damn EVIDENCE :D!!! Now we can know!
Peebrain and Erik, man you sure showed us the light!!! :D
On June 23, 2006 3:45 PM, Anonymous said...: Did you keep all body parts at an equal distance from the devices at all times? The human body does contain some radioactivity, thus moving your hands closer would cause a slight increase. If this is legit, it's fantastic--just be sure that nothing else is causing the spike (like hands). To ensure accuracy, no one and nothing should be moving at all, and the level of ambient light should remain steady (IE, the sun coming out from behind a cloud may increase ambient radiation level as well).
I wait to hear more before judging this discovery.

--Winged Wolf
On June 23, 2006 4:03 PM, PotentiaL said...: WOW... Awesome job guys, Thats pretty exciting stuff!
On June 23, 2006 5:39 PM, Anonymous said...: you are becoming a demi-god...
On June 23, 2006 6:48 PM, Ancheron said...: Well done.

Intersting that it was found using a geiger counter: somehow what you did manifested in ionizing radiation. Aside from atomic decay, that could be done from ionizing various atoms in the atmosphere into an energetic state.

Besides what mad hatter said, this shows that psionic abilities are very chaotic and have a much farther reach than previously believed. It seems that psionics can influence things on the microcosm of subatomics or in the macrocosm of entire objects. That leaves the question, why is it so hard to work psionics?

So close to answering the Great Mystery, but also, so far.

I would like to point out that it would not be easy to reproduce this evidence. It is a use of abilities likley beyond the strength of some psionicists at the moment.
On June 23, 2006 7:11 PM, ErikJDurwoodII said...: While it's easy to get caught up in the moment, we need to keep this in perspective. Personal opinions aside, this experiment is far from the "proof" that we all seek. It IS however, a wonderful starting point to further active research. There are still some lofty conditions to this experiment that still need investigation and need good testable theories to pair with, but for the most part, we witness a measurable disturbance that is TTI (timed to intent).

We're definitely getting there though. ^__^
On June 23, 2006 10:59 PM, Peebrain said...: To answer a few questions...

I did test my hands afterwards to make sure my hands didn't cause the spike. I put my hands in all sorts of different positions, and no spike was detected. I haven't tried sunlight, but I will tomorrow morning. I've tried all sorts of things... people have told me cell phones radiate as well... but my cell phone doesn't cause flucuations either.

It doesn't take long to test a theory on a different source of the spike. Only a minute or two. Feel free to come up with more ideas I can test.

~Sean
On June 24, 2006 1:58 AM, Anonymous said...: does joet have a blog?
On June 24, 2006 12:31 PM, Aphanas said...: Interesting results, guys. You're got potential for a proof of principle test once you frame a hypothesis - just because you've already managed to have two separate groups reproduce the effect. Hopefully your observation will lead to a consistently reproduced effect that can withstand lab testing. We'll be purchasing a geiger counter up here to see if we can reproduce the results. We'll let you know either way. Good luck with further testing.

--Aphanas (and Rainsong & Jael)
On June 25, 2006 1:39 AM, Anonymous said...: whats your skype??
On June 25, 2006 12:45 PM, Crystylla said...: Wow, those're some pretty interesting results! I wish I had a Geiger counter. o.o

~Crystylla ;]
On June 26, 2006 9:02 AM, Bob_stew said...: What kind of radioactivity was measured? Alpha- rays, Beta- rays or Gamma- rays? (Sorry if I spelled it wrong, I just translated the terms directly from norwegian.)
On June 26, 2006 2:52 PM, psi001 said...: COOL
On June 26, 2006 2:53 PM, SmartAss said...: This is awesome, but people, don't jump to conclusions. This doesn't mean that PSI is alpha/beta/gamma ray, it just means that a geiger counter can measure it.
For example, a scale can be used to measure mass and weight. (As long as it is on Earth and you use a conversion) But, this doesn't mean that weight is mass.
Just want to make sure no quick-conclusions are made.

The SmartAss
On June 27, 2006 12:45 AM, Anonymous said...: Hey man thats awesome. That really is cool. What i think you should try is making a psi-ball in front of it, and see if the activity has a positive correspondance with the amount of "oomph" you put in. If so, we finally have our scale for how to measure psi!

CONGRATULATIONS!
On June 27, 2006 4:00 AM, Anonymous said...: In response to the comment above about the human body radiating...

There is no way that normal radioactivity from the carbon breakdown in our body could produce 68 CPM. Small samples of Uranium-235 produce around 25 CPM at 6". The human body should have a value significantely lower than that.
On June 27, 2006 2:50 PM, SmartAss said...: Hello again!
I would like to see if different forms of psycokinesis affects it in different ways. E.g. micro-, or "pyro-" Maybe it won't, maybe it will...
On June 28, 2006 9:48 AM, Anonymous said...: This is all very interesting and such... but isn't TK(PK) just the movement of something? And doesn't it have the same principles as Psyonics? The acute ability to manipulate energy or matter? How would a geiger counter, that measures radiation, really prove were moving anything? Basically, doesn't it mean were sorta creating radiation? or kinda, manipulating that in particullar? And if so... wouldn't it be dangerous if those levels of radiation became significantly high???

Thanks!

-Figgeh
On June 28, 2006 4:15 PM, ErikJDurwoodII said...: The scope of these experiments are not to prove that we ARE moving anything. We already got that down. Done deal. What we are investigating is the energetic reaction that facilitates motion. It's like saying the a car moves BECAUSE it has wheels, but giving no reference to the engine that does the work, or even the fuel that powers it.
On June 30, 2006 8:38 PM, Nightshade said...: that is amazing, but we still don't know if it is radiation (i doubt it) or some sort of electromagnetic field...is there anyway you can think of that could show us if PK uses electromagnetic fields? just a thought. but, this a breakthrough of some sort. this gives us one more way to "measure" PK, or at least give some sort of results.
On June 30, 2006 8:42 PM, Anonymous said...: Well thats interesting. Maybe if you tried having an OBE and while in that OBE you try moving your hand over the counter you may be able to tell if it was a dream or not,and also if the counter really works since your not in your body and the radiation levels would be sure to not come from you.
On July 04, 2006 11:46 PM, retoricalzen said...: I was curious about what 'smartass' said. What type of radiation was being detected, and did you do a backround survey prior to starting the experiement? Therefore, you can eliminate such things as external vairables, atmosphereic anomolies, etc. If rad is the case, then the concept of psi might move from a 'feeling' force function to more of a visualtion of multitudes of atoms being moved via. As you said, you saw the field. it might have been a reaction...a micro-nuclear process in the cup of your hands. Very, very interesting nonetheless. Now that it can be recognized that psi is being used, being able to monitor growth and manipulation can take on a more structured method, no?
On July 07, 2006 7:36 PM, Anonymous said...: Bear in mind that in any 'usual' experiment that deals with radiation in any way.. The counters are set for a day (at the very least, several hours) in order to 'calibrate' against the background radiation.

Without this calibration, the results might simply be caused by natural fluctuations in the radiation that's beaming down on us and radiating from all around us.

Interesting experiment, but it requires proper methodology and setup to make it a 'fair test' before anything can be proved.

If you throw a dice twice and it happens to land on six both times, would you then take it that the dice always lands on number six? :)
On July 09, 2006 3:43 PM, Anonymous said...: There are several things you should test.
(1) Is it only with TK? Does it work with psi balls/ constructs/ other things?
(2)Is it belief bassed? If you can find someone who knows nothing about the counter or that they are besing tested will it still regester resoults when they do psi stuff? Or will it only work if one is aware of the counter.
(3)How big an effect/ how much psi is required for it to regester? Will it regester weak effects?
On July 14, 2006 2:58 PM, Anonymous said...: same as everyone else, holy crap.

i may actually try and apply for the james randi challenge if its that simple...
On July 14, 2006 10:27 PM, DeMONiCxAuRa said...: This is utterly mind-blowing...

if the results of the groups were not tampered with (which im almost 100% positive pee-brain and joet did not do) this could definitely be the start of a new area of in-depth research, as well as a way to measure one's psionic capabilities.

Honestly... this post... is amazing

i could die right now and be happy....

but im not...

i have to test this out for myself first :)
On July 15, 2006 10:10 PM, Anonymous said...: Not very spectacular at first... such graphics can be influenced directly, without a geiger counter or such device. Maybe your subc did just that.

But maybe you're on the right trail... but then, why the geiger counter? Radioactivity can't move objects. Could be a sort of side effect of "psi" or whatever.
Whatever... just keep experimenting, we'll see then. Some other test persons and other experiment set-ups would be good.

(Maybe a person able of doing TK moving a object and the geiger counter is hidden near it, without the person knowing of it?)

Good luck.
~ice][tea
On July 16, 2006 2:17 AM, Anonymous said...: Nice job guys.

-token
On July 17, 2006 4:03 AM, Evan said...: Hey, awesome. I'm really excited about this. Keep up the good fight and be sure to keep us posted.

-Evan
On July 23, 2006 11:46 AM, segue said...: where do you get radioactive marbles???
On August 02, 2006 10:10 PM, Anonymous said...: maybe we're sending out particles that move the psi-wheel, and can be detected by the geiger counter?
See if you can try to move the counter directly using TK, and see if the CPM goes wild.

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Reproducible Results

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