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do you think this levitation would work? on Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:44 pm

pyroman098

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 916

ok i found this on rotteneggs.com i'll copy and paste the paragraph here it is:This way is very hard, and needs alot of patience. Since you are trying to defy the laws of gravity here it has alot to do with physics. I asked my highschool physics teacher about it. and i found out there is such thing. Now when you want to do something your mind does what the body wants to do. In order to levitate you have to reverse that. you have to make your body do what the mind want, which is called mind over matter, in everyday life matter takes over the mind but a very few amount of people have the ability to reverse this effect. This is like trying to get to quit smoking but on a larger scale, your mind wants to stop but your body doesnt.
now, i researched a little about this. what you need to do is when your hungry dont eat, when your tired dont sleep(of course dont kill yourself.)keep trying to oppose what your body wants with what your mind wants. Gradually over time keep making the challenge harder and harder, and im not making any promises but if you keep oposing your body with what your mind wants you can levitate off the ground. Bees have this control, if you ever look at a bee it seems as if its actually hovering, thats because its defying the law of gravity, bees are too heavy to fly with wings.


ok so this is the paragraph i copied and pasted........
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Posted on Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:02 pm

Yamamaya

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 292

lol. just to be picky, bees fly by rotating their wings really REALLY quickly. a sort of psudo flapping. there's a couple of articles on it.

but, back to the mainstream, yeah. levitation can be possible with enough concentration i hope...;(

meh. in my experience, anything is possible.
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Posted on Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:37 pm

pyroman098

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 916

yes anything is possible i just dont know if this method would work
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Posted on Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:29 pm

Nitsua

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 15

I can tell that just by hearing the name of the website it makes me doubt its creditability. I think there is more to "rotten" then just its name. Wink
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Posted on Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:06 pm

InnerFire

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 172

I know a large part of psionics is belief, but let me illustrate something, belief will not let you do everything, it can't be currently explained fully but that does not mean reason does not apply to psionics, energy concerns are still important (I like to think of the Force of a psionic activity is psi * focus/belief).

Let me crack the physics down for you on some things:

The mass of a pencil- 0.005 kg
The mass of a semi average human - 7.405 kg

Now to levitate a pencil you'd need greater than the force keeping it down by gravity, which would be F = mass * gravity. 0.005 * 9.8 = 0.049 N

Now to levitate a human:
F = mass * gravity
7.405 * 9.8 = 72.57 N

72.57 / 0.049 = 1481.0204

So you would be required to provide a force nearly 1500 times what you would need to levitate a pencil, and a pencil would be considered somewhat advanced tk.
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Posted on Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:59 pm

psiguy

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 72

Is levatation really worth starving yourself, and depriving yourself of sleep so that you fall asleep when you don't want to.
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Posted on Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:02 pm

InnerFire

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 172

Forgot to mention that thanks for reminding me. I implied it but let me say directly, that's crap what they're saying, you are not defying the laws of physics, you are merely acting with a force that isn't defined yet. As far as we know psionics still plays by the rules, we just don't know how.
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Posted on Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:10 am

pyroman098

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
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so it wont work?
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Posted on Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:15 am

InnerFire

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 172

It is highly unlikely.
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Posted on Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:58 pm

Tenkei_Enzeru

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 50

Lol Plays by the rules??? What do you mean. I don't see psi being pulled down my gravity. I don't see it moving to a path of least resistance. It doesn't follow electricity OR a physical element to the universe. Hell its more like light. Yet we can move things with psi, but not with light. Psi DOESN"T follow the rules. When was the last time you were in physics class and they stated that humans were able to levitate objects with their mind? And how many newtons of that takes. NEVER because we don't have a damn clue.
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Posted on Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:53 pm

InnerFire

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Quote:
I don't see psi being pulled down my gravity. I don't see it moving to a path of least resistance. It doesn't follow electricity OR a physical element to the universe. Hell its more like light. Yet we can move things with psi, but not with light.


This is psi, not magic, it isn't some thing that just amazingly defies all reason, and for the point of what you said we can't be sure about 90% of that since we cannont detect psi our measure it, but as to the first thing you are wrong. When I was reading various things about force bubbles in the psipog articles, you can "drop" them on stuff and they'll fall, roll around, and affect stuff while doing so. And while we're on force bubbles there is also that it is a physical element of the universe, as it has to be in some extent to effect another physical element. And for the point of argument light is effected by gravity, but only on a collosal scale i.e. black hole.
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Posted on Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:57 am

Tenkei_Enzeru

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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InnerFire wrote:
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I don't see psi being pulled down my gravity. I don't see it moving to a path of least resistance. It doesn't follow electricity OR a physical element to the universe. Hell its more like light. Yet we can move things with psi, but not with light.


This is psi, not magic, it isn't some thing that just amazingly defies all reason, and for the point of what you said we can't be sure about 90% of that since we cannont detect psi our measure it, but as to the first thing you are wrong. When I was reading various things about force bubbles in the psipog articles, you can "drop" them on stuff and they'll fall, roll around, and affect stuff while doing so. And while we're on force bubbles there is also that it is a physical element of the universe, as it has to be in some extent to effect another physical element. And for the point of argument light is effected by gravity, but only on a collosal scale i.e. black hole.


They do that because you believe they do that. Psi does what we believe it does. We think that its a ball so it will roll. SOO it becomes a ball, and rolls...
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Posted on Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:13 pm

pyroman098

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
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theres not one law that psi disagrees with but scientists cant prove it yet so thats why you dont study it in school
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Posted on Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:31 pm

Thanatos

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 249

Some people are just so stuborn because they want psi to be magical and to do everything, it gives them hope. Kind of like beleiving in religion. Its a need.
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Posted on Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:47 pm

TheZell

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 146

About the mind over matter idea: Interesting, however I'm skinny enough as it is, I don't need to starve myself anymore Very Happy

Levitation would be in the realm of either Energy Manipulation or PK, depending on which method you would use to levitate.

(Note that that is just my opinion, I never tried levitation before.)
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