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Posted on Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:59 pm

pyroman098

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
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i'm starting to think that if you can move somthing with PK, then you can move anything with PK...you just think that it will take more energy so it does...Just beleive you can, and you can! i think...like when people think its harder to move a psiwheel under glass...

Posted on Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:53 am

EndOfAllHopes

Joined: 27 Apr 2006
Posts: 18

DanielH

You are a really narrow-minded person. (No Offense)

Do you know that yoga IS science?

The fact that it's a science of another culture make it less "real"? Rolling Eyes

Posted on Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:05 pm

DanielH

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 479

Quote:

DanielH

You are a really narrow-minded person. (No Offense)

Do you know that yoga IS science?

The fact that it's a science of another culture make it less "real"?

- EndOfAllHopes

I don't take it as an offensive comment.

Quote:

Yoga is a family of ancient spiritual practices that originated in India, where it remains a vibrant living tradition and is seen as a means to enlightenment. Karma Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, Jnana Yoga, and Raja Yoga are considered the four main yogas, but there are many other types. In other parts of the world where yoga is popular, notably the West, Yoga has become associated with the asanas (postures) of Hatha Yoga, which are popular as fitness exercises and also form the basis of an expanding business.

Yoga as a means to enlightenment is central to Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and has influenced other religious and spiritual practices throughout the world. Important Hindu texts establishing the basis for yoga include the Upanishads, Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, the Bhagavad Gita, and the Hatha Yoga Pradipika.

- Wikipedia

That's not a science. What part of Yoga makes it a science?

Posted on Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:40 am

EndOfAllHopes

Joined: 27 Apr 2006
Posts: 18

[quote="DanielH"]

Quote:

DanielH

You are a really narrow-minded person. (No Offense)

Do you know that yoga IS science?

The fact that it's a science of another culture make it less "real"?

- EndOfAllHopes

I don't take it as an offensive comment.

Quote:

Yoga is a family of ancient spiritual practices that originated in India, where it remains a vibrant living tradition and is seen as a means to enlightenment. Karma Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, Jnana Yoga, and Raja Yoga are considered the four main yogas, but there are many other types. In other oparts of the world where yoga is popular, notably the West, Yoga has become associated with the asanas (postures) of Hatha Yoga, which are popular as fitness exercises and also form the basis of an expanding business.

Yoga as a means to enlightenment is central to Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and has influenced other religious and spiritual practices throughout the world. Important Hindu texts establishing the basis for yoga include the Upanishads, Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, the Bhagavad Gita, and the Hatha Yoga Pradipika.

- Wikipedia

That's not a science. What part of Yoga makes it a science?

Well, this definition is made by western people, I guess.

Here is a definition made be the famous yogi Swami Rama:

"Yoga defines itself as a science--that is, as a practical, methodical, and systematic discipline or set of techniques that have the lofty goal of helping human beings to become aware of their deepest nature. The goal of seeking to experience this deepest potential is not part of a religious process, but an experiential science of self-study. Religions seek to define what we should believe, while a practical science such as meditation is based on the concrete experience of those teachers and yogis who have previously used these techniques to experience the deepest Self. Yoga does not contradict or interfere with any religion, and may be practiced by everyone, whether they regard themselves as agnostics or members of a particular faith. "

http://www.swamij.com/yoga-meaning.htm

If you were born in India for example, you would have seen yoga just as you see the western science now, becuase it does work...
Do you thing that millions of people for over 2500 years studies a method that doesn't work? Rolling Eyes

Posted on Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:45 am

DanielH

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 479

Quote:

- EndOfAllHopes

It's not a science. It doesn't actually attempt to explain how humans or anything works. It doesn't look at the chemical/biological processes. It doesn't really involve much if any psychology that I've seen. It doesn't do any of that. It's not a science.

I don't see Yoga as being bad. I think it's pretty good as just a physical exercise. I don't care much for it for when it comes to meditation though. But that is it. Not a way to reach "enlightenment" (which I don't believe in) or any of that. It's just a good way to exercise your body. I don't really care much for all the non-physical parts of Yoga myself; it's good for my back is all.

"Western" society tends to do things better. "Western" medicine is much better. Our logic is better than "Eastern" philosophy. The list goes on and on, but I don't think you want to hear about that. I use "" because the same applies to non-good medicine in the West too. New age trash and all that.

Posted on Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:56 am

MartialArtist

Joined: 03 Feb 2006
Posts: 582

-DanielH wrote:

Quote:

It's not a science. It doesn't actually attempt to explain how humans or anything works. It doesn't look at the chemical/biological processes. It doesn't really involve much if any psychology that I've seen. It doesn't do any of that. It's not a science.

I keep forgetting to place down my sources. Someone please remind me to do that next time. Thanks!

Quote:

"Western" society tends to do things better. "Western" medicine is much better. Our logic is better than "Eastern" philosophy. The list goes on and on, but I don't think you want to hear about that. I use "" because the same applies to non-good medicine in the West too. New age trash and all that.

How can you even say these things. Have you studied "Eastern medicine"? How did you compare these medicine to the Western medicine? Have you ran tests on people using both medicine? And what about our society, how is something as complex as a society examined properly enough as to conclude that Western society is better? How dare you even use the word better. How dare you say we as Western people are better at these aspects than eastern people. How Selfisch and blind you are. I bare with you.
Our logic is better? Do you know all human being that go by the ways of the Eastern Philosophy and do you know all the people that go by Western philosophy? Have you manage to compare them properly in a scientifically responsible way? Sources please, sources.

You lack most of what you are accusing me and others of, those are: Proper Knowledge and stating sources when you are making powerfull claims. You make ridiculous claims which really prove to me really how ignorant of a person you are. You are just trying to be right all the time. Every thought which falls outside of your little mind, is stupid. And every person behind that thought must be a stupid idiot right? Ignorant child.

Oh and btw, why don't you try for instance to compare the level of happiness, peace and contentment between the West and the East? Or in other words, between you and someone who goes by the ways of the eastern phylosophy? Because is that not what matters most? Is that not why we have medicine, society, infrastructure, and all that chaos in the first place? Is not every action we perform, an action performed because we are in search of more peace, happiness and contentment? If you honestly observe yourself, with an humble mind, you will see that these are the aspects you are searching for. It is the reason behind every action. Would you even do anything at all if you were 100% content and at peace and happy? Think about it. Really think about it. Try not wanting to prove your right for once, instead try wanting to know the truth, regardless wether or not it in harmony with your already conditioned thought-forms.

MA

ps. Try not to change anything in my post, I backed up my original one.

Posted on Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:46 pm

DanielH

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 479

"Oh and btw, why don't you try for instance to compare the level of happiness, peace and contentment between the West and the East?"

Israel:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1153292020774&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0728/p25s01-wome.html
http://www.btselem.org/english/Human_Shields/20060720_Human_Shields_in_Beit_Hanun.asp

Iraq:
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1993/iraqanfal/

Japan WW2:
http://www.centurychina.com/wiihist/germwar/uspow.htm
http://www.lit.osaka-cu.ac.jp/~tsuchiya/gyoseki/presentation/TRT5.html
http://www.copi.com/articles/guyatt/unit_731.html
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/08/28/1030508070534.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4749467.stm

If you don't know what a vivisection is... it's basically dissecting something that's still alive. Often without anasthetics.

Japan Suicide:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4071805.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3735372.stm
http://www.theforeigner-japan.com/archives/200304/news.htm
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Japan/FG28Dh01.html
http://www.crisscross.com/jp/kuchikomi/383

Tensions:
http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?l=1&id=3533
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/13/asia_letter/main1798656.shtml
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/07/05/korea.missile/index.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/05/AR2006070500217.html
http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=41275

N Korea Human rights:
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=13430
http://www.command-post.org/nk/2_archives/018642.html#more
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61612.htm
http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2005-11/UN-Human-Rights-Envoy-Meets-North-Korean-Defectors.cfm?CFID=35017514&CFTOKEN=31930562
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A41966-2003Oct3?language=printer
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2006411.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,2763,1136483,00.html

Sex trade:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26296
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3700110.stm
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C06E6DD1E3EF932A15751C1A9679C8B63

Censorship:
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,56195,00.html
http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article-southasia.asp?parentid=40226
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/07/19/india.blogging.ap/

Sure seems like a place full of happy people to me Very Happy

!

I got tired of reading about all the cruelty in the world so that's all I'll post for now. Can you blame me? There is much more if that's your kind of thing.

"How can you even say these things. Have you studied "Eastern medicine"? How did you compare these medicine to the Western medicine? Have you ran tests on people using both medicine? And what about our society, how is something as complex as a society examined properly enough as to conclude that Western society is better?"

er, I didn't say that Western society is better than Eastern society. If I did then show me where I did.

Accupressure/puncture, etc

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/acu.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1633756&dopt=Abstract
http://www.yale.edu/opa/newsr/02-01-02-01.all.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/05/050504101520.htm

What other aspects do you want me to mention?

"Or in other words, between you and someone who goes by the ways of the eastern phylosophy?"

Well, I'm happy pretty much all of the time now. I'm not violent. I help my family. I try to be the best at whatever I find to be important. I'm very healthy. What else should I add?

"Is that not why we have medicine, society, infrastructure, and all that chaos in the first place?"

Actually, I think that we first started using herbs and all that stuff because we accidently (or perhaps some other reason) used it when we were first cavemen. Nope, I can't back that up. That's before written history. After that we learned more about all those other things for various reasons. To help cure humans, to find out more about the universe, on accident while doing something else, and so on. Which do you want me to back up?

"Would you even do anything at all if you were 100% content and at peace and happy?"

Of course I would be doing more. I'd try to make this world a better place. I'd try to make myself happier too.

Posted on Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:09 pm

MartialArtist

Joined: 03 Feb 2006
Posts: 582

You have changed my post, I won't talk to you in this topic no more.

Posted on Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:15 pm

DanielH

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 479

I'll change every post that you ever make if you don't put up sources. I think I already told you that. Be prepared for a long line of edited posts if you refuse to add sources.

Posted on Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:26 pm

Sky_Psion

Joined: 16 Feb 2006
Posts: 127

DanielH, Everything I have seen you write on this forum EVER has been an annoying, small minded comment about the negativity of anything. Not once have I seen a positive contribution to the welfare of the site apart from deleting BS of newbies. Not once have I heard a piece of insight come from you. Not once have I felt positive support from you for anyone. You've never even posted a video on PK or done anything that might inspire the newbies to be less fluffy. You may think that you're purfying the world by yelling at everything you don't fully understand, but you're only contributing to your own personal downfall. I'm tired of it, and I think if you stopped even for a day, you would find yourself in a more easy going world with much less hostility.

This is all my personal opinion and the source of the information is you, Psipog, and my own viewpoint.

Posted on Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:16 am

randomness

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 7

-DanielH

you know i dont mean to jump in but what you are doing is completely wrong. so you have the power to change people posts but you are going through and changing his opinion that he is telling other people. it is their choice to decide whether or not to believe him. last time i checked you dont need sources for an opinion. i would say back off and try to open your mind and then i might start respecting you again as a moderator

Randomness

Posted on Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:36 am

DanielH

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 479

randomness wrote:

You need sources to back up what you say. An opinion like "Damn, that movie sucks" doesn't need a source. An "opinion" like he makes does require sources. I don't want people to believe fluff.

My mind is open. The problem is that some people have a mind so open that their brain is about to fall off.

I don't care about your respect or lack of. I don't even know who you are.

Posted on Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:02 pm

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

Hey DanielH,
How did you ever come to be a moderator? Wink

Posted on Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:19 pm

larryleisure

Joined: 06 Jul 2006
Posts: 44

u'e better do the same and ask yourself questions too, before you'll end up in madhouses

believe what u want, I personnaly don't care.
I care about my own mental health, and probably DanielH is doing the same, instead of blindly believing things.
I'm not saying everything's crap or true, just trying to get a rationale behind all your stuff.... isn't that fair????

Posted on Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:09 am

EndOfAllHopes

Joined: 27 Apr 2006
Posts: 18

Quote:

u'e better do the same and ask yourself questions too, before you'll end up in madhouses

Your problem is that you are basing your opinion on things you heard/read.

Other people here base their opinion on their self experience.
IMO self experience is like many times more interesting, relevant and valuable.

Else then asking from people to back up their self experiences with sources, I think the policy should change and people, if there are interested in commenting on other's self experiences, should first try the things for themselves.

Quote:

...instead of blindly believing things.

This is a ROFL.

You, who don't try and see for yourself is the blind. Razz

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