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Imagining Ten Dimensions on Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:09 pm

conaner

Joined: 07 Feb 2006
Posts: 49

Just sharing a link
http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash.php
flash presentation of 10 dimensions
interesting to watch, since we don't know
exactly what the physicist are thinking
when they say 10 dimensions.
Sure gets you thinking higher dimensions
should have possibilities for psionics.

Posted on Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:46 pm

bullfrog

Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 5

dude, they already know about 13 dimensions

Posted on Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:00 pm

Tasvel

Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 31

Before this gets out of hand:

They can only prove five dimensions. Everything else is speculation and unfounded pseudo-science. Furthermore, the fifth dimension mentioned in the flash is not the fifth that is accepted - rather, the generally accepted fifth dimension is that which would be influenced by relativistic physics.

Basically, a dimension is something that would be required to describe the location of something - simple as that. I can describe a 2-dimensional object with two variables, a 3-d object with 3, etc. The fourth dimension is, of course, time.

You could speculate on as many dimensions as you want, but you can't prove any of them. Thus, claiming them as fact is nothing more than pseudo-science. The most you could possibly do is claim a few more dimensions based upon quantum mechanics, but we don't know enough about quantum behavior to do that yet.

(Note: if I seem a bit indignant, its probably because I'm rather drunk. By "rather", I mean a lot. My apologies, but this needed to be said.)

Posted on Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:10 pm

Tasvel

Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 31

Yeah, I just watched it again. The borderlines between dimensions are completely arbitrary, could be restated in any number of ways, and are utterly repetitive (in other words, you could repeat the process of 1-through-10 an infinite number of times). This is... eh. Not the best dimensional analysis I've seen.

No offense to the creator of this, but it's nothing more than pseudo-science. Only Mathematics can currently use things higher than the 5th dimension, and it doesn't name its dimensions anyway - it merely treats it as a different quantifiable variable required to describe a point. Completely abstract.

(The same disclaimer as above holds true here.)

Posted on Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:18 am

pepsiboy

Joined: 25 Jun 2006
Posts: 562

we'll arent we heading into the sixth dimension in 2012?

Posted on Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:16 am

conaner

Joined: 07 Feb 2006
Posts: 49

*sigh*
People want to know about string theory well, thats what it presents, it doesnt get into the mathematics. If you watch dimension 10, he says you can't get anymore, anyway I'm sure he knows its abstract (theoretical), can u prove theres other universes? no, you can't prove it but its a theory anyway (alot of scientists believe string theory, so be educated). Anyway, my thought was basically a dimension above moving something in 3 dimensions, appears so "psionic-like", doesnt anyone think so?
My point of discussion wasn't how many dimensions, just higher dimensions (period). It shares a good imagination. I still wonder if time is a dimension, even though I know it exists, not necessarily a dimension, but it is a worthy condidate. He states timelines can break off into other timelines, but backward time travel isn't possible(at least for humans) it breaks the laws of physics as we know it to go back in time, which is a requirement of a dimension (2 degrees of freedom, btw under that logic dimension 10 makes no sense anyway). So anyway let me state I don't believe in string theory. I thought it is a good imagination the way its presented, since so many scientists talk about "string theory" its good to be educated about it, hope some people appreciate it. String theory is still debated alot, keep that in mind everybody. Its always good to think outside the box (box has 3 dimensions, haha get it? get it? eh? eh? <=corny joke)

I've actually never heard of proof for any higher dimensions period. I wasn't expecting anybody to believe it as absolute fact, just expand your imagination.
Just like if you moved a penny in the flatlanders world, from a 3rd dimension it would look like PK to the flatlander.
(thats basically my viewpoint of it all, something could be higher dimensional like our minds, man its all theoretical anyway)

Posted on Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:02 pm

pepsiboy

Joined: 25 Jun 2006
Posts: 562

ya i can prove there is another universe.. look in the sky.. the stars. yes they are.

Posted on Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:47 pm

conaner

Joined: 07 Feb 2006
Posts: 49

it's possible Wink

I suppose if anyone wants to chew out the author, he has a forum on that website to ask him questions.

Posted on Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:48 pm

Peebrain

Site Admin
Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 716

That was a cool video. Neat way of looking at things.

It seems a little obvious to state that it isn't proven. Of course it isn't proven... it's just something cool to think about.

~Sean

Posted on Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:10 pm

conaner

Joined: 07 Feb 2006
Posts: 49

yea I know right

I found another video program online about string theory, this time it's made by PBS. It's probably more thorough than the website
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html

Posted on Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:59 am

embrace

Joined: 19 Feb 2006
Posts: 82

It was on PBS the other night. I enjoyed watching it.

Posted on Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:27 pm

thegrogen

Joined: 18 Jun 2006
Posts: 91

pepsiboy wrote:

ya i can prove there is another universe.. look in the sky.. the stars. yes they are.

What's that got to do with other universes?

Posted on Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:06 pm

WhiteRaven

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 343

there are no other universes, the word means all that exists.

"we'll arent we heading into the sixth dimension in 2012?"

Laughing

don't be a nitwit. you can't "head into" a dimension, it's a spatial measurement.

Posted on Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:19 am

Omega92

Joined: 12 Jul 2006
Posts: 43

hmm, thesrs a wiki on the 4th dimension
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_dimension
but that treats it as if it were another direction where tesseracts exist (a.k.a hypercubes). gah, im all confused, ive heard like seven different explanations for the dimensions above the third.

Posted on Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:27 am

Lleu

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 153

[quote="Omega92"]hmm, thesrs a wiki on the 4th dimension
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_dimension
but that treats it as if it were another direction where tesseracts exist (a.k.a hypercubes). gah, im all confused, ive heard like seven different explanations for the dimensions above the third.[/quote]

From what I read, tesseracts and hypercubes are two different things. A tesseract would be the 'shadow' of a four dimensional object. But it might be an unraveled hypercube. I'm getting lazy with my facts. My information comes from [i]Hyperspace[/i] by someone.

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