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Posted on Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:56 am

the_s

Joined: 11 Jul 2006
Posts: 38

and in addition; you can take some shrooms or LSD or whatever and than really fly away! You can feel and see eneergies that are beyond the ability of our eyes and ears.. but remember, drugs are bad, m'kaaay. Very Happy
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Posted on Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:59 am

cthon98

Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 83

yeah, I'm 22 years old. I've had issues sleeping since I was ten. A cocktail of pills is the only way I can even fall asleep within an hour of going to bed, no matter WHAT I do throughout the day. Even then, I'm still a light sleeper. A bug walking on a piece of paper can wake me up. So its either take a bunch of pills and get some semblance of a good nights sleep, or only actually sleep every 3 nights, only then because of pure exhaustion, and be tired and incoherent all the time.
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Posted on Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:31 pm

JOHNNYBEGOOD

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 354

cthon98 wrote:
yeah, I'm 22 years old. I've had issues sleeping since I was ten. A cocktail of pills is the only way I can even fall asleep within an hour of going to bed, no matter WHAT I do throughout the day. Even then, I'm still a light sleeper. A bug walking on a piece of paper can wake me up. So its either take a bunch of pills and get some semblance of a good nights sleep, or only actually sleep every 3 nights, only then because of pure exhaustion, and be tired and incoherent all the time.
The sleep you get from pills isn't as benficial as natural sleep. Try gradually taking less and less sleeping pills and see how that works.
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Posted on Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:38 pm

the_s

Joined: 11 Jul 2006
Posts: 38

man they have cured the most chronic insomniacs; i believe ther is a solution for you too. It all comes down to the levels of melatonin but, maybe you have some sort of malfunction and dont produce enough.. but anyway, try gradually taking less pils as johhnyBgood suggested, try to meditate some and calm down before sleep and try to set your bio rythm by waking up and going to sleep at the designated time and trying to et some 7-8 hrs of sleep pre day.
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Posted on Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:44 pm

Mad_Hatter

Joined: 19 Feb 2006
Posts: 393

Isn't there a rule against giving medical advice? I seem to recall the mods being quite specific about that.
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Posted on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:32 pm

JOHNNYBEGOOD

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 354

Mad_Hatter wrote:
Isn't there a rule against giving medical advice? I seem to recall the mods being quite specific about that.
Well, I thought of it more as common sense.
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Posted on Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:45 pm

ryanb21

Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Posts: 238

Its not an addiction it's a sense of dependancy but I'm able to over come it whenver I want. I only take it when I HAVE to go to bed early and I am not able to sleep but even then when I lay completely still as if trying to OBE I fall right asleep (which makes it hard for me to OBE and why I still haven't).

Thanks for clearing up the Melatonin question pplz. Very Happy
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Posted on Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:38 pm

cthon98

Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 83

no offence, but if I want medical advice, I'll consult a doctor, not a stranger on an internet forum.
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Posted on Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:20 pm

ryanb21

Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Posts: 238

Ok here's what I would have to ask my doctor...
Does Melatonin make my ability to become Lucid in my dreams worse?
Better? Does it make me not be able to control when I dream less often?

It's just my opinion but those are kinda weird questions to be asking a doctor.
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Posted on Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:29 pm

cthon98

Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 83

In my experience Melatonin has no effect one way or the other on dreams. It's something your body produces in response to specific times (Internal clock) and in response to darkness. Melatonin is a good suppliment to help keep you on a regular sleep schedule, and to help especially when you travel or suffer from insomnia. And it has no harmful effects, unless you take it in large quantites (But then again, what DOESN'T? Heck, if you drink a ton of water all at once, it's gonna be unpleasant.)
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Posted on Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:53 am

Mad_Hatter

Joined: 19 Feb 2006
Posts: 393

cthon98 wrote:
In my experience Melatonin has no effect one way or the other on dreams. It's something your body produces in response to specific times (Internal clock) and in response to darkness. Melatonin is a good suppliment to help keep you on a regular sleep schedule, and to help especially when you travel or suffer from insomnia. And it has no harmful effects, unless you take it in large quantites (But then again, what DOESN'T? Heck, if you drink a ton of water all at once, it's gonna be unpleasant.)


Ok, to give you some perspective on the amount of Melatonin in supplements and how much much your pineal gland produces: During the night your pineal gland produces anywhere from 5 to 25 micrograms of Melatonin. the supplements usually have 1 to 3 milligrams. That is a huge percentage increase from normal, and thats the "recommended" dose.
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Posted on Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:13 am

JOHNNYBEGOOD

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 354

cthon98 wrote:
no offence, but if I want medical advice, I'll consult a doctor, not a stranger on an internet forum.
Good idea. I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about anyways. Twisted Evil
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Posted on Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:55 am

ShaRoku

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 28

Man, anyone that can remember at least 1 dream a night to me is really lucky. I try so hard, and tell my sub-con. all the time to remember my dreams, I even started keeping a dream journal a little wile back, but yet I'm lucky if I remember 1 dream a week.
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Posted on Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:07 am

Kenshin1

Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 59

i remembered 2 dreams in one night on monday... and one wednesday. had a hell of a time getting to sleep last night though. took about 5-6 hours to fall asleep (1am-6am)..then i only slept till around 10 cause of my alarm Sad
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Posted on Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:02 am

azsxdc

Joined: 12 May 2006
Posts: 90

To those who have tried all of the above and still suck at becoming lucid/recalling dreams, you need more vitamin b6.
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