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i got a question.... on Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:57 pm

snipes

Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 23

Hello , i believe in those things but i tried the psi wheel to no avail
then i was wondering you know ,there's a lot of people who are ready to give a lot of money if you can prove you got ESP so if i was able to move the psi wheel of move a pen or anything else ... well i'll be first in line to get the money !!!
so why arent you doing the same ???
please give me a good answer ? i still want to believe....

but thats a BIG question i ask myself ... Y arent you all in line for the money .. the 1 millions ?

Posted on Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:01 pm

monkey28164

Joined: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 363

Because its rigged. Theres an article somewhere about it. And even if it wasnt I dont have to prove myself to some snotty old guy. I rather not have a million dollars

Posted on Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:03 pm

snipes

Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 23

you what ?? .. well i would not spit on 1 million $ ...
im ready to a lot of thing for 1 million ... like everybody i guess ...
y not you?

Posted on Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:05 pm

monkey28164

Joined: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 363

Because my powers are worth more than a million dollars. I dont want to be poked and proded. Neither do I want media and press folowing me around. Then there are the religious peple who trash my house thinking Im doing santanic magic. Im happy like I am right now, Im not wasting my time and powers on skeptic people

Posted on Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:06 pm

maxus

Joined: 13 Jun 2006
Posts: 851

snipes wrote:

you what ?? .. well i would not spit on 1 million $ ...
im ready to a lot of thing for 1 million ... like everybody i guess ...
y not you?

http://www.psipog.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4910

~M

Posted on Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:07 pm

snipes

Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 23

and if one day i can just turn the wheel a little bit ...I WILL go for the million dollars for sure ... who cares who will laugh at me .. anyway
the wheel turns = yes i am rich = yes .. so who will laugh people? or me lying on a beautiful beach ....
so who cares who will laugh you will be rich go ahead... before i get there and steal the million ... !?

;o)

Posted on Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:09 pm

monkey28164

Joined: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 363

Like I said its rigged. You'll just waste your time and money.

Also its called grammar and punctuation

Posted on Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:10 pm

snipes

Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 23

maxus

english is not my language thats why i got so many mistake when i type
do you speak an other language ?

Posted on Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:15 pm

Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

Snipes, thank you for asking politely. There are many reasons why i do not wish to do these challenges. Let me list them out for you:

1) The Randi challege has had many respectable people go through it but Randi, whenever actually challenged, starts personally attacking the person (verbally), and makes fun of them. This is, actually, normal because we are threatening their beliefs. A lot of people believe that telekinesis, telepathy, etc is all sci-fi. If you think about it, it does sound like a sci-fi movie. (we make balls of energy, read minds, move things with our minds, etc.) He wants to prove to people that psionics is fake and so when he is threatened, he fights.

2) If the abilities were revealed in someone, science, the media, the public, and everything would be all over them. That is not a great idea. You will be treated differently, the media would give away all your secrets (kind of like celebreties today; "Angelina Jollie and Brad Pitt?!?!? Will they get married and have a baby?"; "Singer declares that he is gay".) No one likes that, let alone WANTS that. You will be constantly surrounded by people saying, "Hey, pass me the salt telekinetically". It might sound good to have all that attention and fame, but it would get old and annoying really fast. There would also be people who absolutely hate you. Such as religious fanatics who claim psionics is Satanistic, people who believe psionics is fake and wants to prove it, and just regular hooligans who thinks its funny. I get, on average, 450 emails per day JUST by psions who want me to teach them how to do things. If i was to go public, i would have millions daily (some hate emails even now).

3) This is perhaps the easiest one to understand. I dont want people's money. I would feel as if i was robbing the person. Yes, $1,000,000 is a lot but i would take it just to show people that i can do something? Why not give me money to brush my teeth?

I hope this helps.

Posted on Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:30 pm

snipes

Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 23

Apollo

thank you for answering politely,
well it makes sense now (i think about your number 1)
but for your number 3 well i guess it's not worst than get paid as a magician.. but anyway i feel that you're right about Randi.. and the other things number 1 and 2...

thank you for answering im not a skeptic i wanted a reason why and you gave it to me
thanks.

Posted on Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:41 pm

Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

anytime. Welcome to Psipog

Posted on Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:44 pm

maxus

Joined: 13 Jun 2006
Posts: 851

snipes wrote:

maxus

english is not my language thats why i got so many mistake when i type
do you speak an other language ?

I speak German, fluently.

~M

Posted on Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:29 am

PeBubble

Joined: 02 Jun 2006
Posts: 69

snipes, I don't think it's that people spit on the million $...
but think about what happens afterwards?
You get the million, and then he'll give you another million $ if you show it to his friends, and then you'll be pushed around in the public...
that's not worth 2 mills...

Posted on Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:04 am

Natsufan

Joined: 25 Aug 2006
Posts: 17

snipes wrote:

Randi is NOT going to let you win.

I know, because I am from Spain, a country where we suffer summer draughts (in the south), so we need wells and we have a long tradition of dowsing for water. We studied in school that the most logical explanation for dowsing "powers" was that the dowser had special sensibility towards the magnetic fields of underwater currents. In my country, water dowsing is considered natural and normal: the magnetic field explanation is not the most common one, but everyone thinks about it the same psipog thinks about psi: don't know what it exactly is, but I know I can use it. In my little slot of land, we have a well. I saw the dowser detect it.

Randi is not only against telekinesis, psichokinesis, telepathy and other stuff... He says that DOWSING does not exists. Honestly, guys, I don't know about people in more humid countries, but in mine, dowsing is accepted as normal and existing. It is even studied at school, and was given an physical explanation (the magnetic stuff). Randi says the well in my house is paranormal. If he wants to, OK, but that makes me think more skeptically of him than of the things he criticises... When he is blatantly claiming the inexistance of something that has been proven during centuries, I can't trust him.

Besides, Randi has lost at least two lawsuits against Uri Geller. Geller sued Randi on libel, and has always won, to the point that Randi had to get an economical agreement with Geller, so Randi would shut up and Geller would stop suing him. Because, I remind you, Geller has always won at the courts. That doesn't prove that Geller is a psion, but it does prove that Randi lies to prove his points. I'm all for skepticism, but when you have to lie to defend your point of view, you've lost the north.

So, being skeptical is good. I am. But Randi is not skeptical. He is as fanatic in his anti-beliefs as the Inquisition or Bin Laden may be in theirs. He lies to prove his points, he's lost lawsuits for libel, and he says that dowsing is paranormal (honestly! It's damn common in the countryside in Spain! It's as paranormal as cooking!) So, if you go for Randi's challenge... He's NOT letting you win. That is, in case he has the million dollars, because Peebrain asked them and they just didn't answer. They CLAIM they have a million dollars, in bonds. But we don't know where the bonds are, so they may well have 10 dollars. Which would be another reason for not letting anyone win. If I wanted to enter the challenge, I'd have to pay my expenses from Spain to the USA, hotels and planes and all. And if he lied to the point of libel, why shouldn't he lie to avoid anyone from winning? I'm not trying. If I had powers to win that one, I'd try at a casino.

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