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Posted on Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:57 pm

SpiritNL

Joined: 12 Jul 2006
Posts: 43

Apollo wrote:
I'm sorry, but look at how it moves when it is in the air. Now attach any material to a string and pick it up with the string. SAME MOVEMENT. And why has noone heard of Phoenix? Knowing kids, if they got something that no one else did, they would be bragging and putting it everywhere.


Same movement? I would love to see it then. And if it were to have the same movement, it still doesn't have to mean it is fake. Phoenix is from Norwegen and he has been on a norwegian forum too. You haven't heard of Phoenix? About who are we talking now then? You know him now anyway.
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Posted on Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:07 pm

Peebrain

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Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 716

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If you have ever been on Jack's site you can read that he states that when he levitates, the ball corresponds to his hand movement, if he moves his hand up the ball goes up and if he moves it to the side, the ball follows. The same goes for me, if I need to pull the ball up I need to make small pulling motions with my fingers and hand. That is the reason for the ball to move with my thumb.


Jack ( http://freesailing.com/ ) is fake as well, in my opinion. If something is too good to be true, it probably is.



~Sean
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Posted on Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:09 pm

SpiritNL

Joined: 12 Jul 2006
Posts: 43

And the one in the jar, Peebrain?

Let me get the link up in here, wait a sec.

Edit: http://youtube.com/watch?v=aOVRg1dKoBY

I have my doubts about Jack too, but he might be real.
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Posted on Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:40 pm

genjo

Joined: 13 Feb 2006
Posts: 222

this is lame.

im preying this is some kind of joke here Peebs.

http://www.psipog.net/media/ni-telekinesis-000.jpg

quote:

Comments:
Awesome pic of NI levitating a knife using telekinesis! This pic is really cool - go click on it now and check it out! It is 100% real.
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Posted on Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:37 pm

Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

Benyamin wrote:
Same movement? I would love to see it then. And if it were to have the same movement, it still doesn't have to mean it is fake. Phoenix is from Norwegen and he has been on a norwegian forum too. You haven't heard of Phoenix? About who are we talking now then? You know him now anyway.


Yes, it is the same movement. Its the movement of a pendulum. If you don't believe me, please try it yourself. Obviously I have seen his video NOW otherwise I wouldn't be able to discuss it.
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Posted on Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:32 pm

Peebrain

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Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 716

Benyamin wrote:
And the one in the jar, Peebrain?

Let me get the link up in here, wait a sec.

Edit: http://youtube.com/watch?v=aOVRg1dKoBY

I have my doubts about Jack too, but he might be real.


I suspect he doesn't screw the top down very hard, and that the jar has enough breathing room around the edge to allow the string to still affect it. A tell-tale sign of this, is to watch how the foil ball doesn't really levitate - all Jack does is move the container AROUND the ball. And the ball stays in one spot. This is a red flag indicating magic trick.

And I do know about magic tricks. I studied magic for 6 years, and focused a lot of my time on levitation tricks. So I trust in my own sense of what is a trick and what isn't. Not that I'm always right or anything - I'm capable of being wrong as much as any human - but I might have a sharper eye than others who see it once and flip out that it must be real.

To genjo - not sure what you're point is. Because I believe that NI's picture is real means that I have to believe that Phoenix's video is real? That doesn't really make sense. I judge each situation on an individual basis. When I watch Phoenix's video, the bullshit detector in my head goes off.

If you disagree with me, then that's fine. Lots of people disagree with me on lots of different topics.

~Sean
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Posted on Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:48 am

genjo

Joined: 13 Feb 2006
Posts: 222

Sean >

my point is a video is better than a picture. i beleive fully in phoenix, i and others have achieved the same types of movement using psistrings. different methods = different movements.

as you can see in that video, using the string theory is very rudementary and usually mimics hand position. true, it can be done without hand movement, but using hand movement (in my experiences) greatly hepls overcome subconcious blocks. imnot asking you to beleive this video, im just explaining why i think otherwise.
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Posted on Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:04 am

SpiritNL

Joined: 12 Jul 2006
Posts: 43

Anywho, to stay on-topic:

There is an upcoming event on PsiStudies, that will take place in the chatroom (webchat or IRC). It is a seminar/discussion type of thing. Hosted by Martial Artist (also from these forums). The topic is; Consciousness and the Mind. You don't have to be a member or anything to join the event. Just make sure you read the rules/procedures the seminar has (to be found here: http://psistudies.net/index.php?action=events.php).

IRC server: irc.darkmyst.org
Channel: #psistudies

I hope to see some of you guys there. Smile

~Spirit
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