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Posted on Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:22 pm

Workinonit

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 121

Roy wrote:
Workinonit wrote:
Howabout you read what I've said. I said it would be easy to do, sadly no one will ever do it, therefore it's not technically possible.

How would you know what I thought? If you did you wouldn't have said anything. I never said, or thought we were at any sort of equilibrium, I'm just saying that the odds are EXTREMELY high that war will never not be a part of the earth.

You sir, are full of wishfull thinking, and I'm sorry, wishfull thinking doesn't do jack shit.


I can surmise what you're thinking because you're so nonchalant about violent human behavior, and you even go so far as to excuse it. It doesn't take a detective or a psychic to figure that out.

Actually, wishful thinking does a lot. It inspires change in the individual and in society. If you're content with remaining the same person in the same place thinking the same way, then be my guest. If you don't evolve mentally or spiritually, you get left behind. I'll see you in my rear-view mirror, boss.


LOL OKAY Dr. Phil. When you do see me, I'll give you a nice wave with the middle finger Razz
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Posted on Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:13 pm

Roy

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 416

Workinonit wrote:
Roy wrote:
Workinonit wrote:
Howabout you read what I've said. I said it would be easy to do, sadly no one will ever do it, therefore it's not technically possible.

How would you know what I thought? If you did you wouldn't have said anything. I never said, or thought we were at any sort of equilibrium, I'm just saying that the odds are EXTREMELY high that war will never not be a part of the earth.

You sir, are full of wishfull thinking, and I'm sorry, wishfull thinking doesn't do jack shit.


I can surmise what you're thinking because you're so nonchalant about violent human behavior, and you even go so far as to excuse it. It doesn't take a detective or a psychic to figure that out.

Actually, wishful thinking does a lot. It inspires change in the individual and in society. If you're content with remaining the same person in the same place thinking the same way, then be my guest. If you don't evolve mentally or spiritually, you get left behind. I'll see you in my rear-view mirror, boss.


LOL OKAY Dr. Phil. When you do see me, I'll give you a nice wave with the middle finger Razz


Yes of course, because morons usually resort to that sort of non-verbal communication. I'm so glad you took the time to reflect upon what I said and formulate an intelligent response.

If you want a Dr. Phil, then I'll give you a Dr. Phil: why were you in juvy? Was it a violent crime, perhaps ? I'm just a bit curious because it wouldn't surprise me that a former juvenile inmate would lack the empathy and understanding required to compromise and get along with other people. Is that enough Dr. Phil for you?
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Posted on Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:39 pm

Workinonit

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 121

Oh lawd. How'd you know Dr? Breaking out of a state facility, burgulary, grand theft auto, the works. No violent crimes though, but thanks for the attempt love.

All I've been stressing is that it is pretty much improbable to suggest that you can stop war. If you wan't to try, go right ahead, but 99.9999 percent chance says you will get no where, or if you do, the situation will just repeat itself.
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:05 am

freakinrican626

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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That's what what's his name thought when he invented the cannon. He thought it would prevent wars from happening...but instead it just became a different way to conduct wars
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:15 am

Roy

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 416

Workinonit wrote:
Oh lawd. How'd you know Dr? Breaking out of a state facility, burgulary, grand theft auto, the works. No violent crimes though, but thanks for the attempt love.

All I've been stressing is that it is pretty much improbable to suggest that you can stop war. If you wan't to try, go right ahead, but 99.9999 percent chance says you will get no where, or if you do, the situation will just repeat itself.


I know because you mentioned it as a caption to one of your photographs in the "Display Your Photos" thread in General Discussion. I usually pick up little details like that.

It's not improbable to suggest that you can stop war. It's actually quite easy to suggest that you can stop war, and if I'm not mistaken, that's what I've been doing for the entirety of this thread. I'd love to know your criteria and statistical analysis methods that led you to 99.9999 percent. Given your calculations are accurate I still feel that the .0001 percent chance for non-violence justifies any endeavors toward that goal.
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:08 am

Psi_Fi

Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 28

Sure war is a good way of culling a population, helping to create a bigger death rate than birth rate. Though, as proven in WWII there were a lot of deaths, but births won out in the end (e.g. baby boomers).

Whether or not war is good, that's a hard question to answer. Economically and ingenuitually, yes. Truly, war is both good and bad. Frankly, no war can truly be gauged until about 20 years later. We might figure out that the war in Iraq, or the War on Terror, were the best wars ever.

As to my stance on all of this, I'm currently undecided. Somehow I still have hope in the human race, even though I know they're all total pricks(me included). Though, hard to accept, it's probably true, as long as there are are other people we will be disagreeing with them to the point of escalating to war.

But, back to the issue that this began on. Sure it may be near impossible for anyone to stop a bullet or an explosion with PK. However, I'm sure that some of the stronger PKers (e.g. those that can move couches) can disable their effectiveness. Both bombs and guns have small fragile parts that can completely disable such weapons. By breaking the fragile parts, changing the way the barrel is facing, changing the trajectory of the bullet, or slowing the hammer of the gun, can disable the effectiveness of the weapon.

As for disabling an army psychically, check out this site http://healing.worldispnetwork.com/index.html. Check out the bottom articles.
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:16 am

Workinonit

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 121

Roy wrote:
Workinonit wrote:
Oh lawd. How'd you know Dr? Breaking out of a state facility, burgulary, grand theft auto, the works. No violent crimes though, but thanks for the attempt love.

All I've been stressing is that it is pretty much improbable to suggest that you can stop war. If you wan't to try, go right ahead, but 99.9999 percent chance says you will get no where, or if you do, the situation will just repeat itself.


I know because you mentioned it as a caption to one of your photographs in the "Display Your Photos" thread in General Discussion. I usually pick up little details like that.

It's not improbable to suggest that you can stop war. It's actually quite easy to suggest that you can stop war, and if I'm not mistaken, that's what I've been doing for the entirety of this thread. I'd love to know your criteria and statistical analysis methods that led you to 99.9999 percent. Given your calculations are accurate I still feel that the .0001 percent chance for non-violence justifies any endeavors toward that goal.


Surprised Hold up, phoning the FBI to report your genius.
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:28 am

Theorist

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 315

the ONE GREAT WAY of testing whether war does good or bad is to have a war NOW! cmon.....someone phone hezbolla and al queda (are they spelt like that?), get the UN on the line.......call all the presidents......lets have a WW3.........


war is such a great thing......look at the number of WWI and WWII games an the market?!
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:47 am

psi4life061

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 77

neveza wrote:
Not likly. Most people can't even slide objects around much less disarm bombs and jam guns with Pk. It's silly. Plus, War is good. removes the weak. Removes the non-needed population. We over crowd the world.

This post has been edited by Roy to make it PG-13 and a bit intelligent

Neveza, I will have to disagree with you and with your outlook toward war. I feel you are gravely mistaken and I want to express my outrage toward your positive attitude of government-sponsored death and destruction. In addition, I do not approve of yor government. Thank you for listening.
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:50 am

ahmed1

Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 367

this is not going to the end , we will talk and nothing will happen .

but only 1 thing lets hope who like war his country get attacked and test the fear and see death around him and die his or her loved people and test what is happening around .
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:30 pm

Workinonit

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 121

I'm pretty sure people who can't even use correct grammar have no place in this conversation. At least Ron and I have points, most of you are just screaming the same shit over and over.

"OMGWTF GO DEI 4 UR CUNTRY AND C HOW U LIEK IT"

Newsflash dumbasses, the people who go to war, or sign up in a military branch are well aware that they could die, or be injured, unless they are just plain retarded. I'd think that would tell you something.

You obviously don't realize that if we weren't involved in wars, and if people didn't die for this country, we wouldn't have a country, and wed be a socialist government, an anarchist country, still a colony, still under tyrany. Morons.
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:14 pm

Roy

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 416

Workinonit wrote:
I'm pretty sure people who can't even use correct grammar have no place in this conversation. At least Ron and I have points, most of you are just screaming the same shit over and over.

"OMGWTF GO DEI 4 UR CUNTRY AND C HOW U LIEK IT"

Newsflash dumbasses, the people who go to war, or sign up in a military branch are well aware that they could die, or be injured, unless they are just plain retarded. I'd think that would tell you something.

You obviously don't realize that if we weren't involved in wars, and if people didn't die for this country, we wouldn't have a country, and wed be a socialist government, an anarchist country, still a colony, still under tyrany. Morons.


Well at least there's one thing we can agree on. People like psi4life with his horrendous ability to communicate without profanity, Theorist with his belief that only strings of periods are necessary for punctuation, and everyone else who cannot create and express a well-thought out opinion should think first, and then post. Somehow they often get the order mixed up.

I also agree that those who volunteer for the military know full and well what they may encounter. To minimalize their dedication and sacrifice by using their sacrifice to fuel a cause they had never consented to (such as that dog-faced Cindy Sheehan is doing, having the time of her life campaigning, traveling, meeting world leaders, making speeches and seeing herself in the news, all of which she accomplished by standing on the body of her dead son).

To say that war was a necessity in the past is misleading. To be more accurate, you would have to say, "war in the past was a necessity to become the nation that we are today". Certainly this is a great nation despite it's flaws and faults, but that doesn't logically conclude that we would have been better off with the wars we fought than without them.
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:02 pm

neveza

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 1147

psi4life061 wrote:
neveza wrote:
Not likly. Most people can't even slide objects around much less disarm bombs and jam guns with Pk. It's silly. Plus, War is good. removes the weak. Removes the non-needed population. We over crowd the world.

This post has been edited by Roy to make it PG-13 and a bit intelligent

Neveza, I will have to disagree with you and with your outlook toward war. I feel you are gravely mistaken and I want to express my outrage toward your positive attitude of government-sponsored death and destruction. In addition, I do not approve of yor government. Thank you for listening.


What? Pfft, I don't enjoy the goverment tell us to kill. Personally, I think we should have a agreement over the country whether or not to go to war. If can't agree then no war unless forced.

I'm just saying that war isn't exactly as bad as people may think. It's a bit rough and sometimes seen uneccessary, but it's a must since capitalisim is built with murder and blood shed, now thats all we know hjow to correct a problem (politcal wise). If you want no more war, become a fucking communist then develop your own political power! (No I don't hate commies, I used to practice such, some years back)
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:09 pm

freakinrican626

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 514

Quote:
Newsflash dumbasses, the people who go to war, or sign up in a military branch are well aware that they could die, or be injured, unless they are just plain retarded. I'd think that would tell you something.



I think we all understand this.....(This is one of those DUH moments).... But even though they WILLING go to war, I would not disrespect ANYONE in an uniform. I don't know how this country would be like (if it would even be a country), but it doesn't change the fact that through the deaths of soldiers, this has given us the freedom we know today. I don't know if I'm really explaining this in the best way I can, but I think that we do owe dead soldiers a lot.
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:45 pm

Theorist

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 315

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do u need anything other than pauses, "!" and "?" when u speak??

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