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biofeedback on Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:31 pm

existanceisnothing

Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 139

i see people talking about how psiballs could be this but i recently learned about it in psycholigy and it seems to me that its just not possible biofeed back is controlled by some kind of sensory thing example to learn to keep ure heart rate below 80 you have it hooked up so a light goes off everytime youre heart goes above that so u try to keep the light off and you learn how to do it. next it seems to be a tool for learning so can someone clear this up for me
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:07 pm

neveza

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 1147

Please work on your grammar a bit more.

Biofeedback deals with many things biologically. I'm not going to go through details, as I don't exactly know what you're trying to ask.
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Posted on Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:36 pm

Theorist

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 315

yea....wth are u asking abt|??
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Posted on Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:26 am

dutchlike

Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 76

okay,I actually tryed to understand this but well,if you can post another explanation with more detail in it I would be glad to help you Wink.
(*Expects another grammar war*)
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Posted on Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:05 am

Theorist

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 315

ANOTHER? since when was there a war?
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Posted on Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:17 pm

existanceisnothing

Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 139

what is biofeedback and can it relate to psiballs as a good reason for skeptsism
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Posted on Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:55 pm

neveza

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 1147

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Biofeedback

It can be handy, but not exactly related to psiballs.
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Posted on Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:59 am

Theorist

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 315

ok....so biofeedback or psionics is to monitor your psi activity and correct yourself for the better....


uh huh.....but how in the world are u gonna monitor your psi? get a friend??

even if so, wad kinda correction would one need?

:confused:
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Posted on Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:49 pm

existanceisnothing

Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 139

im sorry there is alot of confusion in this thread i heard people (skeptics) saying that a psi ball is just bio feedback but i dont think this is possible probuble and a total misuse of the word biofeedback
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Posted on Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:30 pm

Jake

Joined: 31 May 2006
Posts: 139

Dictionary definition of Biofeedback wrote:

A training technique that enables a person to gain some element of voluntary control over autonomic body functions. It is based on the principle that a desired response is learned when received information indicates that a specific thought or action has produced the desired response.


Which means basically gaining voluntary controll over normally involuntary actions (such as heart rate).

But when I see people using the term in the psionic community, it seems to mean "your body playing tricks on you."

Hope it helps Wink
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Biofeedback on Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:17 pm

Wraith777

Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Posts: 52

Quote:
what is biofeedback and can it relate to psiballs as a good reason for skeptsism


Interesting, that thing on biofeedback... I thought it was more along the lines of "I think I feel hot" and suddenly your brain makes your nerves make you feel hot. Maybe that's what you were talking about, which is known as the placebo effect.

And, there's no way to be sure that the psi balls you are making are not a placebo effect until you get to the point where other people can observe what your psi ball is doing. Think about this: When making a psi ball, 2 key things are visualization and believing that it's there, forming in your hand, doing certain things. If you visualize it being hot, there is a chance that, instead of actually creating a hot psi ball, your brain is simply causing your nerves to say that they feel heat. Your mind is tricky like that, and can even cause you injury or give you a disease (known as a psychosomatic disease) if it believes on a subconscious level that you have sustained the injury or you have the disease.

The only real way to prove it is real is, keeping with the hot psi ball example, throwing the psi ball at someone and asking them if they felt it, and what it felt like. If what they say lines up with what you felt, congratulations, you have a psi ball. If not, you either need to work on your programming, throwing, general psi ball-making, or it may just be a concentrated placebo effect. The only way to prove for sure is to have a second party observe your psi's effects. I am still in the stage of getting it to that point, I can kind of feel the psi, but I can't be sure whether or not it's not the placebo effect. I don't doubt it, though, because there's too much evidence for it. I just keep trying, and I am confident that I'll get it soon.

I hope that helped Very Happy
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Posted on Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:50 am

Theorist

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 315

lol.....that took some time to read.......anyway, i dun think it is biofeedback.....speaking of bio.....i've got a biology test next week! argh!
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