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| smoke on Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:31 pm |
existanceisnothing
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this applys to those of legal age of coarse so anyway when i get good at pk im gona start trying to make very crazy tricks with tabacco smoke im thinking gandolf calber. so has anyone tryed it or think its a good idea?
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| Posted on Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:07 pm |
FinallyEffingJoined
Joined: 08 Jul 2006
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Erm... just the other day i read about how to make smoke rings.. so work on that now, and then use manipulating them as psi practice. (with weed smoke of course, much less harsh than tobacco)
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| Posted on Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:28 pm |
Jynx493
Joined: 21 Jan 2006
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Herm, that has been debated enough, I suppose in the longevity of your life yes, in the longevity of your psi career I say no. It pretty much increases the gap between your mind and body making it harder to control your mind.
Um, how about we try incesent smoke instead.
Ah well I'm done.
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| Posted on Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:47 pm |
derricktheone
Joined: 29 Jul 2006
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Herm, that has been debated enough, I suppose in the longevity of your life yes, in the longevity of your psi career I say no. It pretty much increases the gap between your mind and body making it harder to control your mind.
Um, how about we try incesent smoke instead.
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umm no it doesn't...When are people going to stop giving advice on things they know NOTHING about. I've been smoking weed for like 6 years now...at one point like 3 times a day for a year! (stoner I know ) And I've experimented with it MANY times when doing PK and if anything it's actually made it easier for me most of the time. It makes it 10x easier to focus on one thing at a time and relax...don't even try to argue me on this because I bet I've experimented with it 10x more than anyone on here...the only time it makes it harder is when you go overboard with it and then you don't even care about what you're doing and you zone out. There's nothing you can tell me about weed that I haven't experienced or researched all ready...nothing..and if you are going to research it make sure it's VERIFIED research that was done. There are sooooo many articles/documents out there from the 60's/70's/80's all speaking about experiments done(almost ALL proven to be untrue in "recent" experiments/reviews ) which were exxaggerated, misconstrued, or flat out lied about simply to fight the large explosion of marijuana use at the time.
P.S I can only speak about this with PK though...I haven't tried anything else high yet...also some of my best PK sessions were done when I was high..and I also do very well when not high..It will have NO long term affects on your PK. I can say this because I started smoking even before I knew anything about this site/abilities and I've been progressing faster than most others I've read about
P.S.S ...smoke rings are all in the tongue and jaw..don't blow the smoke out, push it out with your tongue..practice practice
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| Posted on Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:33 pm |
zacziggie
Joined: 21 Jun 2006
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ive made smoke look like a number
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| Posted on Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:39 pm |
Jynx493
Joined: 21 Jan 2006
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You honestly made smoke look like a number? Fancy, cool. I'd imagine your creating a force bubble holding the smoke, molding it to the desiered shape.
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| When are people going to stop giving advice on things they know NOTHING about. ... |
This wasn't ment to start an argument, but I as well have been smoking a good 5-6 years. I did however quit, when I noticed how it affect my pk. I have never met anyone besides you who claims it helps, maybe for some, but for most it wont. And don't say it's good. It just shuts up your consious mind, but then once reitred from the drug it leaves your mind "burnt" as they say... meh, what ever you say man. I know it doesn't cause this ... prevents that, I know just as much as you do. Just don't tell people to do it with anything that is harmful (not saying you did.)
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| Posted on Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:02 pm |
derricktheone
Joined: 29 Jul 2006
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| Jynx493 wrote: |
You honestly made smoke look like a number? Fancy, cool. I'd imagine your creating a force bubble holding the smoke, molding it to the desiered shape.
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| When are people going to stop giving advice on things they know NOTHING about. ... |
This wasn't ment to start an argument, but I as well have been smoking a good 5-6 years. I did however quit, when I noticed how it affect my pk. I have never met anyone besides you who claims it helps, maybe for some, but for most it wont. And don't say it's good. It just shuts up your consious mind, but then once reitred from the drug it leaves your mind "burnt" as they say... meh, what ever you say man. I know it doesn't cause this ... prevents that, I know just as much as you do. Just don't tell people to do it with anything that is harmful (not saying you did.) |
I know you didn't mean to start an argument, but you're wrong. I never said it will IMPROVE your pk. I said it made it easier for me more often than not. When did I say it's good? Don't start putting words in my mouth please . YOU said it's makes the gap between mind and body larger therefore makes PK harder. And who came up with this theory besides you yourself and you? How do you KNOW it will be detrimental for "most"? Because you and a couple friends came to that conclusion? I'm not condoning the use of it in any way. I'm just stating the facts and please don't make me bust out all the technical ones in the next post because I can get very scientific and it will be very long.(If you want the facts behind it I'll give them to you.) Shuts up your conscience mind?? Leaves your mind burnt?? Listen my friend, it DOES NOT shut up your conscience mind. If it did you wouldn't even know the difference between right and wrong, and you know that's untrue. And even if you meant SUB-conscious mind that's still wrong seeing as I hear mine clearer half the time. I've also stopped smoking for long periods of time and it's never left my mind "burnt". You're referring to the stereotypical "burnout" smoker. This is not a fact and I will prove it to you if you'd like. More often than not a heavy smokers mind is left "burntout" either because of other drugs taken during the large "smoking periods", or because of lack of brain stimuli. I.E since they're smoking so much weed they care for nothing else and their brains turn to mush. To put it simply. The brains a muscle and if not used, it deterriorates, like all others. However if the brain is continually used/stimulated, even during heavy smoking periods there will be no post affects. (I am still smoking weed and am a college "A" student by the way. And why would you tell me not to tell people to do something harmful if you knew I never did? ..Besides let's not get into the question of "if it's harmful or not"
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| Posted on Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:07 pm |
UltimaRage
Joined: 30 Aug 2006
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| derricktheone wrote: |
| Jynx493 wrote: |
You honestly made smoke look like a number? Fancy, cool. I'd imagine your creating a force bubble holding the smoke, molding it to the desiered shape.
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| When are people going to stop giving advice on things they know NOTHING about. ... |
This wasn't ment to start an argument, but I as well have been smoking a good 5-6 years. I did however quit, when I noticed how it affect my pk. I have never met anyone besides you who claims it helps, maybe for some, but for most it wont. And don't say it's good. It just shuts up your consious mind, but then once reitred from the drug it leaves your mind "burnt" as they say... meh, what ever you say man. I know it doesn't cause this ... prevents that, I know just as much as you do. Just don't tell people to do it with anything that is harmful (not saying you did.) |
I know you didn't mean to start an argument, but you're wrong. I never said it will IMPROVE your pk. I said it made it easier for me more often than not. When did I say it's good? Don't start putting words in my mouth please . YOU said it's makes the gap between mind and body larger therefore makes PK harder. And who came up with this theory besides you yourself and you? How do you KNOW it will be detrimental for "most"? Because you and a couple friends came to that conclusion? I'm not condoning the use of it in any way. I'm just stating the facts and please don't make me bust out all the technical ones in the next post because I can get very scientific and it will be very long.(If you want the facts behind it I'll give them to you.) Shuts up your conscience mind?? Leaves your mind burnt?? Listen my friend, it DOES NOT shut up your conscience mind. If it did you wouldn't even know the difference between right and wrong, and you know that's untrue. And even if you meant SUB-conscious mind that's still wrong seeing as I hear mine clearer half the time. I've also stopped smoking for long periods of time and it's never left my mind "burnt". You're referring to the stereotypical "burnout" smoker. This is not a fact and I will prove it to you if you'd like. More often than not a heavy smokers mind is left "burntout" either because of other drugs taken during the large "smoking periods", or because of lack of brain stimuli. I.E since they're smoking so much weed they care for nothing else and their brains turn to mush. To put it simply. The brains a muscle and if not used, it deterriorates, like all others. However if the brain is continually used/stimulated, even during heavy smoking periods there will be no post affects. (I am still smoking weed and am a college "A" student by the way. And why would you tell me not to tell people to do something harmful if you knew I never did? ..Besides let's not get into the question of "if it's harmful or not" |
I, too, used to be a stoner, smoking about 6 times a day for a year. I agree with you on, well, all of your points about smoking it. It depends on how smart the individual is in the first place. My mind was never left "burnt". However, this is just me, and everybody is affected by it differently.
It's weird, you can learn how to utilize it's effects to your advantage.
However, with that said, stop trying to make little flame wars over the stupidest things. It just shows people how immature you are. You could've just said, "No, it doesn't, and I know from exerience."
That would've been all that was needed. Seriously, dude. What the hell....Grow up.
Also, how the fuck can you say he's wrong? That's what happened to him. He isn't you. Stop trying to impose your fucking opinion on every person you don't agree with.
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| Posted on Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:04 pm |
derricktheone
Joined: 29 Jul 2006
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I know I get worked up all the time and sorry about that. I do a lot of fighting so when I come on here a lot I'm upset. And I'm not trying to make little "flame wars" I just get so annoyed when other people are telling others "this is the right way to do it" or "that will be bad for you" and speaking for like the whole community as if it's fact. And I do need to be able to let things go and "grow up" but I noticed you like to put your 2 cents into every argument on here as well ..I'm not trying to impose every one of my opinioins on here to everyone as well.
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| Posted on Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:43 pm |
Jynx493
Joined: 21 Jan 2006
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End discussion...
and I wont comment on you fighting a lot.
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| Posted on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:35 pm |
existanceisnothing
Joined: 02 Aug 2006
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yea we should probubly stop this just isnt the place to debate drugs but i dont even remember making this post i have no idea when i did it i dont even know if i was high and yea manipulating smoke rings was my first practice idea
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| Posted on Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:42 pm |
UltimaRage
Joined: 30 Aug 2006
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Alright, now that is resolved...
I think using incense and trying to affect the smoke would be a great idea. Maybe, letting a glass fill up with it, trap it in there, and see what you can do, like make a little opening in-between the smoke.
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| Posted on Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:45 pm |
Chabit
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| FinallyEffingJoined wrote: |
| Erm... (with weed smoke of course, much less harsh than tobacco) |
With all the weed smoke you'll need to practice manipulating smoke I think you'll be one upping gandalf with battleship re-enactments in notime
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| Posted on Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:44 pm |
existanceisnothing
Joined: 02 Aug 2006
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yea if u fill a cup with smoke its probly rele good for aerokinises cuz u can see the air
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| Posted on Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:34 pm |
sawyerhickory
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
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This topic desperately needs to be locked on so many levels.
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