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Posted on Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:33 pm

Lerygen

Joined: 20 Feb 2006
Posts: 132

yes yes glass is a liquid. Thens there that fancy stuff you make in middle school called like ooblek. It's just cornstarch and water. If you poke it really hard your finger wont go into it. But if you just rest your finger on top of it, it'll fall in like quicksand. that stuff was always cool
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Posted on Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:46 pm

pulsar

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 47

hmm, well glass is only a liquid a supper high temps.
but i dont think it can be a solid and a liquid all the time.

but the cornstarch and water compound is actualy very close to a solid liquid. it has the dencity of a solid of somthing comes in contact with it at a high speed, but if let to set it will take the shape of its container.

it has both liquid and solid properties Surprised
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Posted on Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:03 pm

Theorist

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 315

glass... if left in place for centuries....will flow like a liquid..... its goddamned sticky.....
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Posted on Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:26 pm

pulsar

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 47

Theorist wrote:
glass... if left in place for centuries....will flow like a liquid..... its goddamned sticky.....


hmm thats cool. i never knew that could happen to glass.
but still the cornstarch water compound is the closest thing to a solid liquid that we have talked about here.
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Posted on Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:41 pm

Syrax

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 1

Unfortunately, something cannot be both solid and liquid. The topic name is known as an oxymoron, or paradox if you want. Although the name of the topic sounds cool, it is not that relevant to what the author actually posted about. A state between solid and liquid, OR liquid and gas, has not been achieved ever, so even if there was one, it cannot be achieved with our technology.
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Posted on Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:53 pm

pulsar

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 47

well put,

malleable solids and low viscosity liquids would be the best way to classify materials that appear solid and liquid.
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Posted on Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:35 pm

vYu223

Joined: 04 May 2006
Posts: 6

About the glass being a liquid thing - For example, look at the really old chapels and churches. I mean REALLY old. Centuries old. Look at one of the glass window panes. The top part of the window pane will be thinner than the bottom part of the glass, which is thicker. Glass indeed is a liquid, but a rather slowly flowing one (at room temperature).
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Posted on Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:02 pm

pulsar

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 47

SO, like a super uber low viscosity liquid.

hmm i might do that more on a hot day, when the heat is increased when it trys to move through the glass. eventualy over time it will slowly turn to glop.
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Posted on Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:43 pm

vYu223

Joined: 04 May 2006
Posts: 6

pulsar wrote:
SO, like a super uber low viscosity liquid.

hmm i might do that more on a hot day, when the heat is increased when it trys to move through the glass. eventualy over time it will slowly turn to glop.


Close, but no cigar. It is like a "super uber HIGH viscosity" liquid.

And what are you trying to do? I don't understand the second part of your post.
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Posted on Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:16 pm

pulsar

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 47

YES sorry its high viscosity.
the higher the viscosity, the more it resists flow.

i was saying before that on a hot day the heat would increase when it moved through glass. As a result over time the glass would slowly droop towards the gavitational point ( the floor ) Neutral

Arrow long story short, the glass melts slowly with heat.
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Posted on Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:53 pm

Theorist

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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haz! thats like stating the obvious!..... how did u tink glass blowers work? they heat the freaking glass!
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Posted on Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:42 pm

Grenin

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 3

have you people never heard of non-newtonian liquids? That ooblek stuff somebody mentioned is an example. So is silly putty, gak, and all kinds of other stuff. non-newtonian liquids act like a liquid and a solid at the same time. Which it acts like depends on the amount of pressure placed on them, not the temperature.

also, glass is always a liquid, not a solid. The viscosity of glass (it has a very, very, very high viscosity) is the reason it is so durable and doesn't break whenever there is a loud noise.

And just another point, is that there are a whole slew of elements that can only exist in two states, no matter what the temperature is. I'm not sure, but I believe mercury and helium are two of them, I'm also fairly certain glass is another example. There are also some that jump from solid to gas.

But to the point, there's no such thing as a solid liquid. Something can not be in two physical states at the same time. non-newtonian fluids are the best you'll ever get.
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Posted on Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:50 am

Theorist

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 315

did u mean one of those weirdo condensates? the bose-einstein one?

nah....tts nth to do wif solid liquid....and ALL elements can exists at ALL the different phases..... btw, the real scientific term for states is phases
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Posted on Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:41 pm

Grenin

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 3

Carbon dioxide goes from solid to gas, and vice versa.

Don't believe me? Go get some dry ice and watch it "melt"

. . . . Actually I guess I was wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublimation_%28physics%29

damn you wikipedia, damn you.
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Posted on Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:34 am

Megalith9

Joined: 25 Jul 2006
Posts: 45

Theorist wrote:
one very good example of solid liquid is toffee and glass.... they look like solids....but given time, they flow like liquids....


btw.... plasma AINT liquid gas..... plasma is the 4th state of matter....

go and search on the "Phases of matter".... hope that rings a bell.... Very Happy


not that im saying anything for definite..but isnt the reason toffee flows after a while cause its melted?!
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