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Please, don't pounce >.< on Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:11 am

specialkid713

Joined: 17 May 2006
Posts: 26

Ive been reading a few articles here and there, and i've come to this conclusion; people should be a little more open-minded. Some skeptic may come along and stur up some trouble, then at least 7 people will pounce on him/her and force their beleifs on him/her, EVEN IN THE SKEPTIC SECTION. Something to know; these skeptics do not hate you, they hate your beleifs as you hate theirs. Obviously, their past experiences in life have led them to beleive whatever they are saying now. What they are saying IS right, TO THEM. Telling them something different isn't going to help because their current knowledge tells them not to beleive that. And its the same for skeptics, don't come here and try to make everyone screw psionics. IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. This is because they have done things, seen things, learned different things than you have, and whats 'up' for you may be 'down' for them.

Also... There was an article here asking what people thought about telepathy with trees. He wanted peoples' OPINIONS, not 25 people trying to say that they are right. (just a thought)

You can read this right now and think, "Ugh, this kid is an idiot." Fine, think of me as an idiot, leave mean messages, but I'm not going to change my mind because it's what I beleive. Try to understand this about others before trying to force your thoughts onto them. Obviously if you've read this far, you have to care the slightest bit... The point of this forum is to SPREAD your ideas, if I am wrong, please tell me.
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Re: Please, don't pounce >.< on Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:52 am

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

specialkid713 wrote:
Ive been reading a few articles here and there, and i've come to this conclusion; people should be a little more open-minded. Some skeptic may come along and stur up some trouble, then at least 7 people will pounce on him/her and force their beleifs on him/her, EVEN IN THE SKEPTIC SECTION. Something to know; these skeptics do not hate you, they hate your beleifs as you hate theirs. Obviously, their past experiences in life have led them to beleive whatever they are saying now. What they are saying IS right, TO THEM. Telling them something different isn't going to help because their current knowledge tells them not to beleive that. And its the same for skeptics, don't come here and try to make everyone screw psionics. IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. This is because they have done things, seen things, learned different things than you have, and whats 'up' for you may be 'down' for them.

Also... There was an article here asking what people thought about telepathy with trees. He wanted peoples' OPINIONS, not 25 people trying to say that they are right. (just a thought)

You can read this right now and think, "Ugh, this kid is an idiot." Fine, think of me as an idiot, leave mean messages, but I'm not going to change my mind because it's what I beleive. Try to understand this about others before trying to force your thoughts onto them. Obviously if you've read this far, you have to care the slightest bit... The point of this forum is to SPREAD your ideas, if I am wrong, please tell me.


Ha ha, I like you. I thought you were just some "special kid" who was going to write some stupid stuff. But, I agree with what you said in every way possible.
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Posted on Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:39 pm

bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

Well, we "pounce" on skeptics who come on a forum dedicated to all of this...to say it's fake...To me, that shows the high amount of imaturity and disrespect. You, I respect because you see that people are fighting a useless war and we all need to just listen for once, which is good. Smile
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Posted on Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:26 am

WhiteRaven

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 343

okay, here's a (exaggerated) conversation between a psychic and a good skeptic:

Good skeptic: Prove it.

Psychic: okay. "lifts good skeptic with TK."

Good skeptic: YAY! IT'S REAL! TEACH ME!


but with many of the so-called skeptics on here it's like:

Moron: ths r teh big poo

Psychics: go away and leave us alone

Moron: no til u prv it

Psychics: not until you grow a brain.


many people on here don't believe, but they don't go around on every forum ranting about James Randi and all that nonsense, thus proving that not believing in psychic abilities does not require you to be a moronic jackass.
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Re: Please, don't pounce >.< on Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:32 pm

Rorigon

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 38

specialkid713 wrote:
Ive been reading a few articles here and there, and i've come to this conclusion; people should be a little more open-minded. Some skeptic may come along and stur up some trouble, then at least 7 people will pounce on him/her and force their beleifs on him/her, EVEN IN THE SKEPTIC SECTION. Something to know; these skeptics do not hate you, they hate your beleifs as you hate theirs. Obviously, their past experiences in life have led them to beleive whatever they are saying now. What they are saying IS right, TO THEM. Telling them something different isn't going to help because their current knowledge tells them not to beleive that. And its the same for skeptics, don't come here and try to make everyone screw psionics. IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. This is because they have done things, seen things, learned different things than you have, and whats 'up' for you may be 'down' for them.

Also... There was an article here asking what people thought about telepathy with trees. He wanted peoples' OPINIONS, not 25 people trying to say that they are right. (just a thought)

You can read this right now and think, "Ugh, this kid is an idiot." Fine, think of me as an idiot, leave mean messages, but I'm not going to change my mind because it's what I beleive. Try to understand this about others before trying to force your thoughts onto them. Obviously if you've read this far, you have to care the slightest bit... The point of this forum is to SPREAD your ideas, if I am wrong, please tell me.


Here's the thing: If skeptics try to shove their beliefs down our throats.... I'm sure most of us are happy to return the favor.

I don't think anyone has a problem with HEALTHY skeptics(i.e. people who don't resort to ad homs, call us mentally unstable, etc.). It annoys me to an extent, of course, but if the person is respectful of us, I know I'll be respectful of him.

Unfortunately, most skeptics aren't like that. They'll attack us, say we're a bunch of 12 year olds with ADD, say that science has 'incontrivertible proof'(I'm sorry, but neither side has complete proof either way; both sides have good evidence supporting their beliefs, but neither has proof), and that we're living in a fantasy world. That makes this place a veritible mine field for skeptics; they say one thing wrong and.... *BOOM* Someone will take it the wrong way, and things will get heated. It's an unfortunate fact that both sides have their jackasses, and that each side is seen as one giant jackass by (most of) the other side.



p.s. I don't think anyone will pounce you! You seem to be one of the few good skeptics out there. Keep up the good work!
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Re: Please, don't pounce >.< on Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:09 pm

specialkid713

Joined: 17 May 2006
Posts: 26

Rorigon wrote:
Here's the thing: If skeptics try to shove their beliefs down our throats.... I'm sure most of us are happy to return the favor.

I don't think anyone has a problem with HEALTHY skeptics(i.e. people who don't resort to ad homs, call us mentally unstable, etc.). It annoys me to an extent, of course, but if the person is respectful of us, I know I'll be respectful of him.

Unfortunately, most skeptics aren't like that. They'll attack us, say we're a bunch of 12 year olds with ADD, say that science has 'incontrivertible proof'(I'm sorry, but neither side has complete proof either way; both sides have good evidence supporting their beliefs, but neither has proof), and that we're living in a fantasy world. That makes this place a veritible mine field for skeptics; they say one thing wrong and.... *BOOM* Someone will take it the wrong way, and things will get heated. It's an unfortunate fact that both sides have their jackasses, and that each side is seen as one giant jackass by (most of) the other side.



p.s. I don't think anyone will pounce you! You seem to be one of the few good skeptics out there. Keep up the good work!


That thing about 12 year olds kind of hurt, because i'm kind of 14...

...This branch of science interests me because i do beleive in the evolution of homosapiens. Yes, I called it a branch of science, however, it is a scarcely known one. All psions/psychics here should have at least some natural doubt, and all skeptics should be somewhat open-minded, (keywords: some and somewhat). All in all, don't jump to conclusions, and respect others' views. If there is a "jackass" in the forums, you're probably going to cause more trouble by arguing, so please, leave him/her alone before YOU become the new jackass. The BE INTELLIGENT at the top has to mean something. ^^
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Re: Please, don't pounce >.< on Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:57 am

bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

specialkid713 wrote:
Rorigon wrote:
Here's the thing: If skeptics try to shove their beliefs down our throats.... I'm sure most of us are happy to return the favor.

I don't think anyone has a problem with HEALTHY skeptics(i.e. people who don't resort to ad homs, call us mentally unstable, etc.). It annoys me to an extent, of course, but if the person is respectful of us, I know I'll be respectful of him.

Unfortunately, most skeptics aren't like that. They'll attack us, say we're a bunch of 12 year olds with ADD, say that science has 'incontrivertible proof'(I'm sorry, but neither side has complete proof either way; both sides have good evidence supporting their beliefs, but neither has proof), and that we're living in a fantasy world. That makes this place a veritible mine field for skeptics; they say one thing wrong and.... *BOOM* Someone will take it the wrong way, and things will get heated. It's an unfortunate fact that both sides have their jackasses, and that each side is seen as one giant jackass by (most of) the other side.



p.s. I don't think anyone will pounce you! You seem to be one of the few good skeptics out there. Keep up the good work!


That thing about 12 year olds kind of hurt, because i'm kind of 14...

...This branch of science interests me because i do beleive in the evolution of homosapiens. Yes, I called it a branch of science, however, it is a scarcely known one. All psions/psychics here should have at least some natural doubt, and all skeptics should be somewhat open-minded, (keywords: some and somewhat). All in all, don't jump to conclusions, and respect others' views. If there is a "jackass" in the forums, you're probably going to cause more trouble by arguing, so please, leave him/her alone before YOU become the new jackass. The BE INTELLIGENT at the top has to mean something. ^^

There are many 14 year olds(including myself) and if you wait(if we get one before the archiving) then you will see what we mean by healthy skeptics and jackass skeptics...
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Posted on Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:35 am

Eldibs

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 909

Quote:
That thing about 12 year olds kind of hurt, because i'm kind of 14...


Don't take it to heart. Just because a lot of younger people act like idiots doesn't mean you all are. The fact that you managed to successfully read the Be Intelligent thing, and that you were able to successfully use punctuation shows that you're not an idiot.

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Yes, I called it a branch of science, however, it is a scarcely known one.


Yes, I'd say it's a branch of science too, and yes, unfortunately it is scarcely known.

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All psions/psychics here should have at least some natural doubt, and all skeptics should be somewhat open-minded


I'm pretty sure almost every psion here has some doubt, even if they've lifted a brick telekinetically and thrown it. It's just some part of you that sits in the back of your mind and says "There's no way it's real... I refuse to believe it, you're just delusional."

Also, by definition, skeptics are open minded, since the word refers to someone who doesn't quite believe what they're being told about whatever subject, but given reasonable proof, would change that belief. Unfortunately we get a lot of self-proclaimed skeptics here that don't believe anything we say and would refuse to believe it if you bent over and shot a lightning bolt out your ass and hit them in the face. You, fortunately, seem to fall into the actual definition of skeptic, rather than the more popular definition, which is 'an idiot.'
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Re: Please, don't pounce >.< on Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:57 pm

Rorigon

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 38

specialkid713 wrote:

That thing about 12 year olds kind of hurt, because i'm kind of 14...


I'm sorry if you took that the wrong way, because it wasn't meant as an insult. I was just giving an example of what pseudo-skeptics tend to do to discredit us(i.e. ad homs). And, unfortunately, often times they do pull out the age card. Rolling Eyes


Eldibs wrote:

I'm pretty sure almost every psion here has some doubt, even if they've lifted a brick telekinetically and thrown it. It's just some part of you that sits in the back of your mind and says "There's no way it's real... I refuse to believe it, you're just delusional."

Also, by definition, skeptics are open minded, since the word refers to someone who doesn't quite believe what they're being told about whatever subject, but given reasonable proof, would change that belief. Unfortunately we get a lot of self-proclaimed skeptics here that don't believe anything we say and would refuse to believe it if you bent over and shot a lightning bolt out your ass and hit them in the face. You, fortunately, seem to fall into the actual definition of skeptic, rather than the more popular definition, which is 'an idiot.'



I couldn't agree more.
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Posted on Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:35 am

mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

I shall say once again:

Skeptic: Open to new ideas, if proof proves positive.

Cynic: Closed to ideas.

There are people who are cynics who think they are skeptics. They are deluded.
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Posted on Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:48 pm

SpiritNL

Joined: 12 Jul 2006
Posts: 43

WhiteRaven wrote:


Good skeptic: Prove it.

Psychic: okay. "lifts good skeptic with TK."

Good skeptic: YAY! IT'S REAL! TEACH ME!


He only is a 'good' sceptic because he gets proof - so there is no need for him to not believe in it. Sceptics over internet don't really get the prove so behave different from the person in this example. 'Good sceptic' isn't even a sceptic anymore the second time he says something.

I can't really blame most of the sceptics, but I do want to see some degree of open-mindedness and intelligent conversation between sceptics and believers.
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