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YOU ALL LOVE THIS !!! on Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:31 pm

Soul38

Joined: 15 Jun 2006
Posts: 72

Awesome clear TK video !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSTsHcqc31E&NR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Zy5D4bYvI&mode=related&search= Very Happy
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Posted on Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:11 pm

Felix_the_Cat

Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Posts: 177

Well, well.

My interest is piqued.

In the video's description: "Please note: This video is for entertainment purposes only. It is... in fact... only an illusion." - what does this mean?

It gets better - much better, in fact. On page 3 of the comments on the video, he says, "I can assure you, no computer trickery was used. And I demonstrate this for people face to face quite often. If you live near the Tampa Bay area, I'd be more than happy to do this for you in person." [NB. According to his MySpace, he is a computer graphic artist and video editor, and this was a response to someone proposing that he did this via computer video editing.]

Well, guess what? I just so happen to live near the Tampa Bay area - about three hours' drive away.

Perhaps I could arrange for a visit and have him demonstrate for me in person. Perhaps I could bring along some video recording equipment and record a video even less capable of being called fake. I'm thinking four to six video cameras, all synchronized, to prove as well as I can that it is not trickery or sleight-of-hand. (Of course, that begs a question as to where I would procure so many video cameras... but my philosophy is never to let logistics get in the way of a unique opportunity!)

I know Sean is being... strange, for lack of a better word... about PsiPog, but perhaps he can be persuaded to put whatever I come out with on the website.

This is, of course, assuming that he is actually doing TK on the wineglass. If it does have some sort of mundane non-TK mechanism behind it then, hey, at least I learned a neat parlor trick!
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Posted on Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:11 pm

sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

That is REALLY cool, especially the wine glass. I wanna know how he sets up that AoE (Area of Energy, not Age of Empires). He makes it look easy.
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Posted on Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:33 pm

madcrazy

Joined: 11 Sep 2006
Posts: 99

Beautiful. That video was BEAUTIFUL!!!! Crying or Very sad
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Posted on Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:00 pm

Soul38

Joined: 15 Jun 2006
Posts: 72

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmuasP82M-w&mode=related&search=
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Posted on Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:58 pm

apocryphal_theses

Joined: 24 Jan 2006
Posts: 79

Why the hell are you straining so hard? That CAN'T be anyway in the region of good. I'm no expert on PK...at all, nor claim to be... But the only time I got force like that was seemingly effortless. Wish I knew how I did. Hmmm. Anyway, good luck with the strokes and aneurysms *thumbs up*
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Posted on Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:09 pm

McLoud

Joined: 14 Apr 2006
Posts: 56

Felix_the_Cat wrote:
Well, well.
Of course, that begs a question as to where I would procure so many video cameras... but my philosophy is never to let logistics get in the way of a unique opportunity!


Shocked Very Happy
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Posted on Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:07 pm

Felix_the_Cat

Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Posts: 177

apocryphal_theses wrote:
Why the hell are you straining so hard? That CAN'T be anyway in the region of good. I'm no expert on PK...at all, nor claim to be... But the only time I got force like that was seemingly effortless. Wish I knew how I did. Hmmm. Anyway, good luck with the strokes and aneurysms *thumbs up*


The author of the video won't be reading this thread, I'm pretty sure, so no need to address comments to him.

I would note that *if it is real*, Leo (maker of the video) is orders of magnitude better at TK than pretty much anyone here... so I'd say that his technique works very well, strain or no strain... Very Happy

Also, if you got strokes an aneurysms from clenching arm musces, push-ups would be a fatal activity...
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Posted on Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:42 am

apocryphal_theses

Joined: 24 Jan 2006
Posts: 79

Not really. Did you "clench" your neck/head region so that your head would shake violently and your blood pressure would increase? Pushups don't put much on your body, to the extent the blood flow would increase so much.

Like, how well do you know your body? Do you know the quality of your vessel walls, the composition of your blood or the nature of your blood flow? I'd just imagine anything that creates that much pressure, toppled with an already dangerous and volatile activity, isn't worth taking risks with. Meh. Like you said, he probably doesn't give a shit; it's his life.
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Posted on Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:45 am

apocryphal_theses

Joined: 24 Jan 2006
Posts: 79

And you're right, he is definitely more experienced then me. Doesn't stop me from questioning him and his methods.
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Posted on Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:12 pm

Gekido

Joined: 27 Jun 2006
Posts: 44

Seems to me he makes it abudantly clear it's a magic trick.
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Posted on Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:28 pm

ChorZ

Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 55

Just before the Wine Glass starts to move, there are some strange lines over the Glass, clear indication of video trickery. Also, when the Wine Glass is in motion, look closely for the blurred area around it, also sign of editing.
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Posted on Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:13 pm

McLoud

Joined: 14 Apr 2006
Posts: 56

I'm impressed by the one which he moves the glass using TK and hands. It is VERY similar to the real thing, when I used to move glass, it goes like that. And using the hand closed works too, and I'm pretty sure doing like he did would work too...
:: goes to try ::
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Posted on Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:52 pm

Gonzo

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 798

This video IS AN ILLUSION...
Nothing more nothing less.
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Posted on Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:10 pm

sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

Why are we arguing? This exact discussion is taking place in another thread. Granted, with a lot of videos, it's easy to find out how they're faking PK. This one's a bit more ambiguous.

I'll wager a guess that, if he hadn't said it's an illusion, that everyone would believe that it's legit PK. Keep in mind that his word is as good as anyone's. If you don't have the slightest clue how it's done, then it's just as great a leap of faith to say it's an illusion as it is to say it's true PK.

And honestly, I don't think any amount of arguing on the internet will change anyone's mind to a significant degree. How many people have we had come in here and ask us what drugs we're on? We've argued with them, and they still have their original opinion, for the most part.

I've noticed lately that this forum's become somewhere to argue about the legitimacy of this or that PK video, rather than the productive discussion forum it's supposed to be. If we spend all day arguing, we stop being psis and start being politicians. Then everything goes to hell around here.

so please, can we have more productive talk, and a little less arguing please? I know I'm not a mod, or Peebs. I'm just a simple psi who would rather use this place to improve himself and strengthen his skills than use it as a debating club. Thanks for hearing me out.
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