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Posted on Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:40 am

Felix_the_Cat

Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Posts: 177

Tankdown wrote:
energy is eneryg!? so are nerves through your brain is simply chemicals resulting from simple energy bouncing around your ceneter nerves system and your spine. But its able to make a sequence with your body to release certain chemicals from certain emotions to create a result back to your conscience.


This would be a straw man fallacy. That said, "chemicals... bouncing around your [central nervous] system and your spine" are responsible for quite a lot of how and what you think and feel.

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Matter, electricly, heat are all simply energy resulting from something more basic. True these arts most of us have practice have come up with cold and heat. But how are you so sure that psionic energy can't come up with more then just that!?


Did I say that it couldn't? I said that creating a "loving energy" wasn't possible. A "loving energy" means a whole new kind or type of energy. I simply believe that energy is energy is energy, and it certainly doesn't embody emotions.

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The part of everything is connected to everything is that everything can effect everything from some form of actions it takes.


Not sure what you're saying here, but I gather that it involves everything? Razz

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How can you be so sure that its unable to create a love feeling!? How can you be so sure its unable to create hate or chaos!? How can you be so sure of what you JUST SAID!?


Whoa there buddy, I didn't say that. I know that it's possible to create or enhance others' thoughts or emotions; being a natural empath gives me a little bit of insight into that. Now, I don't practice any "sending" of emotions, because I feel that it is ethically wrong. Emotions are serious and personal business; it's not right of anyone to psionically interfere with others' emotions without their explicit permission.

What I did say - and I've repeated it above as well - is that you can't create "love energy" or somehow embue energy with love and change it from "normal" energy. See this article and many of the thousands of others like it available online to see what I'm 'calling bullshit' on.

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I guess talking about huffy duffy lovely things are not that much of interest to some people. The way you said that made me even more "up tight" about this whole thing. You talk as if your so sure this is a "fact".


1) I'm about as sure of this as of anything.

2) I hate putting an "in my opinion" in front of every sentence I say or write. It should be obvious that everything I say is my opinion, unless I state otherwise.

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The reason why I am asking these questions is because "love" tends to create far more "meaning" to people lifes then any other emotion.


You need to figure out what you're talking about. You've bounced from "love energy" to empathic suggestion to meaningful emotions. Just because they all share the word "love" doesn't make them the same. For your information, love has a lot of meaning to me too.

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I guess I must have misunderstand you because what you just said was richilous to me. From what you just said told me, is that tells me that psionic is infact not just selfish but also "useless" because it fails to give one of the most powerful emotions we need in our lifes.


Again, I suppose it would be possible with practice to empathically/telepathically suggest love (the emotion) to someone. I've never called psionics useless (though some branches of it seem to have no practical use); I don't think that psionics can "give" emotions, whatever that means.

Also, psionics isn't selfish; people are selfish.

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I know some of my words themselfs are fluffy and just plain sad in some terms. But its how I talk, I try to talk straight from the sub-c in my messages. I also sorry if some of my words in this topic seem hateful.


Don't worry, I realized that it's not worth it to get angry at people over the Internet. Do your worst. You might want to review your posts before you click "submit" in order to make sure that they make sense; "stream of consciousness" writing may be wonderful for your personal diary, but it's not really the appropriate format for posting on a forum.


somefatguy wrote:
I don't really know why, but I see people who complain about fluffy-ness worse than I do for the ones who are labeled as "fluffy."


And I see people who insist that we be open and accepting of whatever hare-brained ideas someone has as having less sense than the purveyor of the ideas himself. Especially when they should know better.

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It's like you accept nothing, it's like you haven't grown up. It's like there is a deep "no no" to the word "love."


A deep "no no" to the word "love"? Hardly. However, the word "love" has so many meanings that it's ambiguous when used pretty much anywhere. (In fact, it's a theory of mine that the word "love" having so many meanings - from "I love my peas" to "I love my husband" and everything in between - is one of the reasons that we see so many failed relationships. But that's neither here nor there.) To make it worse, "love" has been hijacked by the white-lights-and-fluffy-bunnies crowd and made into an entire new concept; thus, when I see someone writing things like "loving energy" and "create a powerful loving feeling", it sends up big red flags.

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I don't think Tankdown is being fluffy, I think he is being open, and he is being criticized for it. I haven't seen him talk about something fluffy before, and yet, there are the dogs waiting to strike.


Look, you best of all should know how I work. I call it like I see it, and in this case, I see fluff. I don't mince words to avoid offending some sheltered tween who hasn't learned to separate reasonable propositions from silly ones, and hasn't grown a thick skin yet either.

Personally, my estimate is that Tankdown is a male between the ages of 13 and 15, when raging hormones play hell with one's emotions.

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Tankdown is exploring life, checking things out, he is doing a better thing than you fluff guards.


He's also making a fool of himself in a place that, in its prime, would have shut this thread down long ago. The fact is, if you want to talk about love energy and universal consciousness and the like, there are places for that. This... is not one of them. Sorry.

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Now actually looking at it, I think the whole "fluff" term is actually just a defensive shield made up to defend what this site is not about. This site was not about love and such in the past but look, the site is dying, and that shield is gone. I think the least you can do is no longer accept the shield's existence.


Again, it seems that your point of view is that we must accept and consider all ideas, however - well, fluffy - they are. I reject that point of view wholeheartedly. If someone has made some uber-"New Age" post about love energy, I'm going to call him out on it. I'm certainly not trying to censor anyone here - but I am defending my right to criticize and post contrary to fluff-shit like this.
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Posted on Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:30 am

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

Felix_the_Cat wrote:
And I see people who insist that we be open and accepting of whatever hare-brained ideas someone has as having less sense than the purveyor of the ideas himself. Especially when they should know better.


Is that directed towards me? And actually, I think I will make something a bit more interesting for you to know. I haven't actually read much of what Tankdown has written. But, I am just defending the general exsistence of his words.

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A deep "no no" to the word "love"? Hardly. However, the word "love" has so many meanings that it's ambiguous when used pretty much anywhere. (In fact, it's a theory of mine that the word "love" having so many meanings - from "I love my peas" to "I love my husband" and everything in between - is one of the reasons that we see so many failed relationships. But that's neither here nor there.) To make it worse, "love" has been hijacked by the white-lights-and-fluffy-bunnies crowd and made into an entire new concept; thus, when I see someone writing things like "loving energy" and "create a powerful loving feeling", it sends up big red flags.


I guess I could agree.

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Look, you best of all should know how I work. I call it like I see it, and in this case, I see fluff. I don't mince words to avoid offending some sheltered tween who hasn't learned to separate reasonable propositions from silly ones, and hasn't grown a thick skin yet either.

Personally, my estimate is that Tankdown is a male between the ages of 13 and 15, when raging hormones play hell with one's emotions.

Yes, your right, I have noticed that in you. No, Tankdown isn't between 13 and 15 actually.

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He's also making a fool of himself in a place that, in its prime, would have shut this thread down long ago. The fact is, if you want to talk about love energy and universal consciousness and the like, there are places for that. This... is not one of them. Sorry.

People who worry about making fools of themselves are people who worry about life. I don't think somebody is going to worry about making a fool of him/herself on the internet. Life isn't meant to be worried over.

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Again, it seems that your point of view is that we must accept and consider all ideas, however - well, fluffy - they are. I reject that point of view wholeheartedly. If someone has made some uber-"New Age" post about love energy, I'm going to call him out on it. I'm certainly not trying to censor anyone here - but I am defending my right to criticize and post contrary to fluff-shit like this.

Hehe, okay Felix.
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Posted on Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:32 pm

Niushirra

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 299

Tankdown wrote:
.....ok I'm going to try to point this out as simply as I can. Can you create a loving feeling energy from psionics?
Love is not energy. Love is a mental characteristic that you can hold that is very close to the commonplace mental condition. It's the other way around. A state of love can create psi better... maybe.
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Posted on Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:57 pm

Tankdown

Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 688

Niushirra wrote:
Love is not energy. Love is a mental characteristic that you can hold that is very close to the commonplace mental condition. It's the other way around. A state of love can create psi better... maybe.

Curse this habit of mine, so terrorible of speaking my mind. Sad

I have other worries to take care of so I can't be posting today. Sorry Sad

I'm 20 years old....21 in may.
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Posted on Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:43 pm

bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

I was thinking about this sort of thing and at the time I liked this girl so I made a construct and told it to replicate the feeling I felt for her. I then told it to stay with her for 3 days and make the feeling towards me. She talked to me a little more those days and she acted differently if that helps at all....I think that just classifies as empathy though. Confused
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Posted on Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:56 pm

Felix_the_Cat

Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Posts: 177

bladeslinger wrote:
I was thinking about this sort of thing and at the time I liked this girl so I made a construct and told it to replicate the feeling I felt for her. I then told it to stay with her for 3 days and make the feeling towards me. She talked to me a little more those days and she acted differently if that helps at all....I think that just classifies as empathy though. Confused


I think it classifies as unethical, immoral, etc.
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Posted on Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:19 am

bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

I realize that....That's why I only three days. She is my friend I would not manipulate her against her if I knew something bad would happen. Nothing came out of it anyway....
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Posted on Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:21 am

randywm

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 510

Even so morals and ethics are man made and dont really affect anything. Its like time or the female orgasm.
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Posted on Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:47 am

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

randywm wrote:
Its like time or the female orgasm.


Say what?!

Are you the guy who once said that he can give women orgasms with his mind? Oh wait, no, that was someone else. That guy really intrigued me with his special abilities...

EDIT: I tried looking for his post, but no luck. Sorry guys...
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Posted on Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:13 am

Fakiti

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 336

...you people are a rather interesting group...


eh I've nothing against telepathic suggestion and I think it's very possible to make someone like you. I don't really like doing that very much because it doesn't seem right. But I still get girls to notice me with psi, just not force it too much.

All other Telepathic suggestions don't bother me, i think I have the right to do what I want with psi seeing as how I've worked for it.


oh, and sfg: his post is in the dream forum under astral sex, I think.. Razz
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Posted on Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:58 pm

bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

I was just testing out more empathy related stuff.....I have learned to do some stuff from that thought that I've helped her with....
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Posted on Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:34 pm

Niushirra

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 299

I think you didn't actually use empathy on that girl bladey. I think since you thought you were doing that you had more confidence or were more at ease and it worked better.
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Posted on Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:19 pm

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

Fakiti wrote:
...you people are a rather interesting group...


eh I've nothing against telepathic suggestion and I think it's very possible to make someone like you. I don't really like doing that very much because it doesn't seem right. But I still get girls to notice me with psi, just not force it too much.

All other Telepathic suggestions don't bother me, i think I have the right to do what I want with psi seeing as how I've worked for it.


oh, and sfg: his post is in the dream forum under astral sex, I think.. Razz


No, it was actually a guy who posted in the "Hello and Goodbye" section. It was just one of the things he could do, and he told us about it. I asked many questions too. Wink
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Posted on Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:58 pm

Fakiti

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 336

ah ok
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Posted on Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:46 am

bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

Niushirra wrote:
I think you didn't actually use empathy on that girl bladey. I think since you thought you were doing that you had more confidence or were more at ease and it worked better.
It is possible but she did sit by me for the first time...ever..on a band trip....never know, could've been coincidence. Wink
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