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Human Evolution?
Poll: Do you think that psi is or will be the next stage of human evolution?
Yes
42%
42% [ 34 ]
No
22%
22% [ 18 ]
Maybe
23%
23% [ 19 ]
"Evolution?"
11%
11% [ 9 ]
Total Votes : 80
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Posted on Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:19 am

Lightbringer

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 293

IBuckFufalos wrote:
When i say carbon dating is not reliable i dont me exact dating im talking about i could never be proven that it works.

People have taken and carbon dated a turtle (alive) from the sea and the dating said he was millons of years old.

People have burying and object (bone, shell, and other things) in their back yard then sent to be carbon dated after a few years in ground and they came out to be like 600,00 years old.

PS: Why did you call me buffalo fucker?


Ever think those people could be lying? These people claim they send something to the lab then they claim "The lab told me it was X years old!". Those very action show that they know shit-all about science in general. Any lab will test the same sample multiple times so that they can get enough data that they are 95% confident in their true value, mean and standard deviation. They don't the object is X years old once they've done their tests and plotted the data. They say it's the "true value" +/- 2x the standard deviation divided by the root of the number of measurments made. It's not a solid number, it's a description of a statistical bell curve that encompasses 95% of the tested results.

The only way I can see a lab actually putting out such a ridiculous result would be if the customer refused to pay for extensive enough testing and only got one sample. There would then be an off chance that you would get a crazy number. Even then, the intention of fishing for an innaccurate result is obvious on the part of the customer so we go back to creationists who are willing to lie through statistics to forward their viewpoints.
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Posted on Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:46 pm

IBuckFufalos

Joined: 02 Sep 2006
Posts: 22

I understand where your coming from. I see that you all are ferm belivers of evolution. Like i said before im not Anit evolution I think we do evolve. But theres no way we started as like tad pools swiming around. Do evolutionist have any proof that and animal/human being can have major evolutions?




Creation has some proof. The bible isnt not just a book many people consider it a text book becuse so many of the things in there are proven by sience.
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Posted on Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:43 pm

JOHNNYBEGOOD

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 354

IBuckFufalos wrote:
I understand where your coming from. I see that you all are ferm belivers of evolution. Like i said before im not Anit evolution I think we do evolve. But theres no way we started as like tad pools swiming around. Do evolutionist have any proof that and animal/human being can have major evolutions?

There's no such thing as a "major evolution". We're talking tiny changes over millions of years.




FAFAFAAFAFropgn wrote:
Creation has some proof. The bible isnt not just a book many people consider it a text book becuse so many of the things in there are proven by sience.
LOL! You're going to trust a thousands of year old book over what we see and observe today? The story of creation was nothing more than the adaption of an old Sumerian creation myth.
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Posted on Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:33 pm

IBuckFufalos

Joined: 02 Sep 2006
Posts: 22

[Quote]LOL! You're going to trust a thousands of year old book over what we see and observe today? The story of creation was nothing more than the adaption of an old Sumerian creation myth.[Quote]

Yes a thousand year old book that many seientist think is practly a text book it is so acurat on events that they have sientificly proven.

Also what i ment by major evolution is that if we evoleved to what we are now then if the world is as old as sientist say then some time we had to have shot up and evoled very fast. So if we evolving at the rate we are now this world is umm no number is big enough to be that.


Sorry grammer and spelling sucks.
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Posted on Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:09 pm

Polymer

Joined: 26 Jun 2006
Posts: 85

umm I would add to the argument if it wasn't for the fact that relegion isnt allowed on these forums. It doesn't take a genius to notice that that is exactly what your talking about. I'm suprised this thread wasn't banned earlier actually Wink you've all kept it on topic for a very long time, I'm impressed.

Evolution is a relegion.
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Posted on Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:54 pm

Roy

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 416

The bible is by no means a textbook. I'm sure historians have studied it and found that there is some accurate chronological order to it, since of course it was being added to and rewritten as time passed. If you're going to try and tell me that scientists regard the bible as a textbook, and maintain a straight face while doing so, then I'd suggest you provide some support for your statements. Maybe a link to a website or two concerning this type of research or study.

As Johnny said, evolution occurs in baby steps, and I'm pretty sure that 6 million years is enough time to evolve into what we are today.

Evolution isn't a religion, nor is it even close to being like religion since one of them founded upon empirical evidence and logic, while the other is founded upon assumptions and personal realities. I'll let you figure out which is which.
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Posted on Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:07 am

Polymer

Joined: 26 Jun 2006
Posts: 85

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=religion

re‧li‧gion  /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-lij-uhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

A religion is not by definition based on the logic behind it. Although relegion is usually represented in the form of worship that isn't always the case. Evolution is still by definition an example of a religion. A religion is a beleif system about where we have come from and why we are here. Isn't that the intire point behind evolution?

There is a reason why religion is against the rules.
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Posted on Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:51 am

Roy

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 416

Polymer wrote:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=religion

re‧li‧gion  /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-lij-uhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

A religion is not by definition based on the logic behind it. Although relegion is usually represented in the form of worship that isn't always the case. Evolution is still by definition an example of a religion. A religion is a beleif system about where we have come from and why we are here. Isn't that the intire point behind evolution?

There is a reason why religion is against the rules.


You're just playing with semantics. Evolution is not a "superhuman agency" in the way that the conception of God is a "superhuman agency." Secondly, I've never read anything where evolutions claims "why" we are here in the grand sense of the universe as religion does. Evolution is used to explain how complex organisms like ourselves and other organisms developed from simpler organisms. Religion is used to explain everything that a religious person can possibly apply religion to. Since a religious person's conception of God is all-knowing and all-powerful and all-influencing, then any questions as to "why" are quickly answered with "because God."

Your simple comparisons between evolution and religion, based on wordplay, negates the vast differences in the bodies of literature that pertain to each.
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