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Posted on Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:36 am

UltimaRage

Joined: 30 Aug 2006
Posts: 146

Many of the things taught on this site could be beneficial to the entire human race. Remote Viewing only useful for military applications? What about kidnappings, finding murders, what if entire rescue teams could remote view? Also, if you become proficient enough at it, you can move, say, couches with PK.

Maybe you could use it as a way to defend yourself, or even help others defend themselves from a distance? There are limitless uses for all of these if the person is skilled enough at them. Hell, we could save money on batteries for remotes and just turn on televisions with our minds. That would be helpful for the enviroment, so a lesser amount of batteries are thrown away in landfills. I really don't see how being telepathic could benefit, maybe exept for way better lie-detector tests.
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Posted on Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:29 am

monkey28164

Joined: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 363

Very true ultimaterage. See the thing is no one is that good at it except remote viewing. Maybe 30 or 40 years in the future but not today.
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Posted on Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:32 am

bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

Skyz wrote:
There is a very simple reason this subject is not widely accepted: it's fairly useless. Everyone's heard of it here and there but no one knows for sure. I've heard remote viewing was studied officially by a government to be used for intelligence gathering in military situations, other than that what good is it? So you can move a piece of paper on a pin, so you can make a pencil roll, so you can soften very light metal using only your mind, what good is that to society? It's a neat trick to show off to friends and family but once that novelty has worn off no one will care. Don't say the world isn't ready for it, you are you and can only speak for you and no one but you, it's more that it doesn't benefit the progress of humanity as a whole until you have enough knowledge on the subject to do something useful with it. Who in their right mind would waste money or time training themselves in something with no foreseeable value, with telepathy being the exception for obvious reasons.
Read between the lines Skyz, these are things that you can do but not all you can do. UltimaRage mentioned many very useful uses of psionics, the only problem I see is that criminals could learn this as well and become quite bothersome to society. Confused
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Posted on Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:24 pm

shantoruk

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 10

Wouldn't telepathy prevent wars? The Internet has already made a huge difference, since people in different countries can be talking to each other even if their countries are fighting. When you can communicate with someone, it's far more difficult to hate them...

Although for that to work, how difficult would it be to teach telepathy at school? Razz
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Posted on Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:36 pm

bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

shantoruk wrote:
Wouldn't telepathy prevent wars? The Internet has already made a huge difference, since people in different countries can be talking to each other even if their countries are fighting. When you can communicate with someone, it's far more difficult to hate them...

Although for that to work, how difficult would it be to teach telepathy at school? Razz
I think it could cause or prevent them actually...
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Posted on Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:44 pm

DemonHunter

Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 100

I think what you mean is still far away or utopia.

Or maybe not. But if i look at what is going on right now, things are very fucked up in the world. Humans are just too dumb to realize themselves
and their lives. The world today is ruled by evil people that are addicted to power, control and money.
The other problem is the behaviour of masses of people, just look at history to see how people act in crowds. In addition to that many people are neurotics or too attached to material stuff.
So, i think it would be very hard to establish understanding in all those troubled minds.


See that as my personal opinion on the current situation. Cool
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Posted on Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:31 am

mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

JOHNNYBEGOOD wrote:
PsiGuy60 wrote:
People are just not ready for it yet. The government also knows of PK and keeps it quiet because people will not understand and it will be against some believes.
Oh for the love of... Gyaah! You CAN'T be serious? "Ooooh, the world isn't ready for it, yet!" The reason the government keeps it quiet is because they know that they would get ridiculed for wasting taxpayers' money on pseudoscientific experiments.

I think the world is TOO ready for it, and you are simply insecure about your belief in the existence of psi. After all, the 'other' people are simply blind to the truth. Rolling Eyes Honestly, you're starting to sound like a religious zealot.


If you're so confident, you say the exact steps it would take for someone to 'prove' psi to you.

Can't just go shooting off your mouth without backing it up.

And no, saying "I don't know" isn't really an answer -_-. Or, a viable one, instead.
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Posted on Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:39 am

JOHNNYBEGOOD

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 354

mattz1010 wrote:
JOHNNYBEGOOD wrote:
PsiGuy60 wrote:
People are just not ready for it yet. The government also knows of PK and keeps it quiet because people will not understand and it will be against some believes.
Oh for the love of... Gyaah! You CAN'T be serious? "Ooooh, the world isn't ready for it, yet!" The reason the government keeps it quiet is because they know that they would get ridiculed for wasting taxpayers' money on pseudoscientific experiments.

I think the world is TOO ready for it, and you are simply insecure about your belief in the existence of psi. After all, the 'other' people are simply blind to the truth. Rolling Eyes Honestly, you're starting to sound like a religious zealot.


If you're so confident, you say the exact steps it would take for someone to 'prove' psi to you.

Can't just go shooting off your mouth without backing it up.

And no, saying "I don't know" isn't really an answer -_-. Or, a viable one, instead.
I posted that at the beginning of time itself
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Posted on Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:48 am

bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

DemonHunter wrote:
I think what you mean is still far away or utopia.

Or maybe not. But if i look at what is going on right now, things are very fucked up in the world. Humans are just too dumb to realize themselves
and their lives. The world today is ruled by evil people that are addicted to power, control and money.
The other problem is the behaviour of masses of people, just look at history to see how people act in crowds. In addition to that many people are neurotics or too attached to material stuff.
So, i think it would be very hard to establish understanding in all those troubled minds.


See that as my personal opinion on the current situation. Cool
I'm pretty sure that I agree with you fully.(isn't that a contradiction?) material needs have become to large in the world...
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Posted on Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:44 pm

Draken_

Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Posts: 102

Sebastian wrote:
Today I told some of my friends about Psi and that stuff, and the only thing he made was laughing. The whole day long he made jokes about that things... Human beings aren't ready for it - not yet.

Sorry for coming in late, but...


Humans are ready for it. When we logged onto psipog, and read those articles...we were ready.
Humans ARE ready.
It's just that they were taught otherwise.
"Magic isn't real"
"Telekinesis isn't real"
This stuff is labeled under Fantasy in the library.
Here's an example.
Today, In English, we read a story and one of the words was "Telepathize".
So, then, the teacher was like "This story is fiction, because of Telepathizing. That's not real. -laugh-"
I was about to jump out of my seat, saying "IT IS REAL!" But i couldn't prove, and it would ensue laughter.
So.
Yeah.
People are born ready--but taught otherwise.
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Posted on Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:15 pm

DemonHunter

Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 100

Hi

What i think is that people are being conditioned these days. Or at least they try to do that. They try to enslave your mind and therefore you, by making you think what they think. By "they" i mean everyone, but especially politicians, militaries or maybe bosses of big companies too. I don't want to generalize either. Not everybody from them is like that, but many are. Some of them are simply deluded and don't know what they're doing but that doesn't make it any better.

Mass media helps them a lot, telling you sweet sounding lies helps them a lot, making you get into dependance to them helps them a lot. Actually the most important thing I seem to have figured out is that you have to go your own way in order to free yourself.

If you go into public with psionics, and you really come through to people
i say everything can happen. Of what i'm sure is that some will try to fight it, but some will try to fight for it too, some will laugh at it and some won't even care, because they knew or because they just don't care. Razz Of course there are billions of more reactions but it doesn't matter.

But Psionics is only a part of it all. In fact i think if humanity would realize Psionics, there will come thoughts that will change the Image of man that is common these days and therefore the definitions of "You" or "Me". This would change many things. But at the same time many things would stay the same, though on an other level. When i speak of humanity i mean the "masses".

Well i could go on forever but i'm sick of typing now. Smile
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