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New here, but something to say.. on Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:00 am

evildead01

Joined: 11 Jul 2006
Posts: 4

Hi guys. It's pretty late so I just wanna get this comment out because it was on my mind. I found this site not to long ago and I always get pretty amazed at the unknown. But you gotta wonder if its fake or not at times because it is unheard of to the real world. now to my question, in which it relates. This has probably been asked lots of times so forgive me, but I need to know the answer.

Why don't the ones that have practiced this for years like joet(amazing vids btw) come out to the public and let there knowledge be known? Now, I know what some are thinking. What do you have to prove to anybody? What do you have to prove to me? Well this is not just your pride on the line, and this isent to prove anything to me specificly.
This is for history. This is for mankind. And I am dead serious when I say this. Not trying to sound corny, but this is for the world. It is an amazing thing, and it needs to be known.

It's the only thing that holds me back from believing its real because of the lack of "comeing out". Well, time for sleep.

Posted on Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:41 am

neveza

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 1147

They probably don't want plublicity.

They probably still called a fake.

It'll solve nothing or achieve anything great. More that'll come out, the same number of skeptics will form.

Posted on Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:13 am

PsiGuy60

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 900

People are just not ready for it yet. The government also knows of PK and keeps it quiet because people will not understand and it will be against some believes.

Posted on Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:26 am

Sebastian

Joined: 11 Jul 2006
Posts: 7

Today I told some of my friends about Psi and that stuff, and the only thing he made was laughing. The whole day long he made jokes about that things... Human beings aren't ready for it - not yet.

Posted on Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:58 am

Peebrain

Site Admin
Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 716

What does "coming out" consist of? Imagine you had the same skills has JoeT - what steps would you perform? Would you go to a University and be tested? I think Joe already did that (or is planning on doing it). Would you do the Randi challenge? Joe has spoken to Randi a couple times on the phone about it (correct me if I'm wrong). A lot of people say we should "come out" and "tell the world" about this stuff. But that doesn't make any sense.

HOW do you "come out"? HOW do you "tell the world"? I think PsiPog.net is a great start - we have 13,000+ members. There have already been news reports on psychic abilities. Project STARGATE is openly available for the public to read about. The world knows about psychic abilities... this stuff isn't a secret. A lot of people just don't care, or have negative beliefs about psychic abilities. Very few people actually don't believe in psychic abilities.

~Sean

Posted on Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:38 am

desg90

Joined: 04 Jun 2006
Posts: 29

Very true. People aren't just ready. Confused

In my country, instead of saying "that's bullshit!" they would probably go on about magik, miths, legends and demonic stuff. Most of people here have a very medieval mentality.

That made me remember one time I suggested psipog to a friend. She rejected it because she liked more spiritual things and that stuff (whitelight mentality), she must be practicing magik by now. Rolling Eyes

Posted on Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:14 pm

JoeT

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 349

Hello everyone,

I'd like to first welcome evildead01 to the forums. I hope you have a wonderful time learning, good luck Smile

. I have been tested several times by my local college professors with many success rates. I do plan on applying more of my time to the science of psychokinesis however I have a few more important priorities before I make time to perform testing again.

I have spoken and discussed psychokinesis as well as remote viewing with James Randi over telephone conversations twice. At first, he agreed to schedule an appointment and testing however, I have yet to receive any phone calls for future planning. He wasn't too thrilled to hear that I am a technical remote viewer or that I have documentation concerning previous testing with local professors.

Although I would love to share my progress/skill with Psychokinesis and remote viewing, I do not see that happening in the near future. I'm currently going through college drama and I'm sure we all can agree that school can be time consuming Smile

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I firmly believe that if more people perform psychokinesis, science will spend more time researching/testing this amazing ability. Although psychokinesis is currently being tested by several organizations, I believe that the scientific community should give more effort to researching/testing. So, my goals are to help as many people as I can to help get the ball rolling.

Thank you for the comment on my video's, I appreciate it. Good luck with psionics. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

- JoeT

Posted on Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:56 pm

Reykia

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 32

You know what I watched last night? The first x-men movie.

The concept on that movie is also the problem this community faces, in a way. These mutant people have incredible powers but no matter how much they help people, humans still consider them a threat. So...if psions were to come out all of a sudden and show people what we could do, they'd become scared, and they wouldn't trust us at all. Especially the psions who were very skilled at it. Or they'd call us fakes.

Plus...some things such as clarivoyance and other things considered psychic, also brings up fortune telling in some people which is said in the bible to be the works of demons. People can jump to conclusions very quickly. ;P

I say, if you wanna prove it to someone, prove it to a close friend or anyone you know who will be amazed by it. Therefor you spread the skill on people who do believe, not on skeptics.

Posted on Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:01 am

desg90

Joined: 04 Jun 2006
Posts: 29

Yep, sadly world isn't prepared yet.

Sounds a bit pathetic, doesn't it? We humans presume a great mental ability of deduction and brain flexibility, while ourselves smash the idea to smithereens by demonstrating we can close our minds and keep them safer from new information than the earth does with it's core. Rolling Eyes

Posted on Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:32 pm

JOHNNYBEGOOD

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 354

PsiGuy60 wrote:

People are just not ready for it yet. The government also knows of PK and keeps it quiet because people will not understand and it will be against some believes.

Oh for the love of... Gyaah! You CAN'T be serious? "Ooooh, the world isn't ready for it, yet!" The reason the government keeps it quiet is because they know that they would get ridiculed for wasting taxpayers' money on pseudoscientific experiments.

I think the world is TOO ready for it, and you are simply insecure about your belief in the existence of psi. After all, the 'other' people are simply blind to the truth. Rolling Eyes

Honestly, you're starting to sound like a religious zealot.

Posted on Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:41 pm

WhiteRaven

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 343

JOHNNY, you should have entered your sn like a normal person, but anyway... if you hadn't noticed, there are quite a few "religious zealots" who just love to talk about how psychic powers, and smurfs, and Barney&Friends come from the devil and are attempts to draw children into "occultic" beliefs.

now first that is retarded, and second, Occultic is not a word, google occultic and you'll find thousands of overzealous twats using the non-existant word, "occultic" and talking about how witches should still be burned.

Knowing that, how can you believe that the world is ready?

Posted on Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:28 am

desg90

Joined: 04 Jun 2006
Posts: 29

Even so, how do you know the WHOLE world is ready? Do you know them all?

Believe me, I'm not saying that "the world isn't ready" because I'm insecure about my religion, know why? Because I have no religious belief, I'm all "I won't belive blindly but search with wide open eyes". I don't base my life in Bible or Torah or Confucious sayings. That's why I like this forum rules, I won't have to bear with people trying to "convert me" to any religion or bring me back to my parents' religion.

I don't think it's all about your government, I've heard that even the URSS and China had their own psychic experiments, but I think they had other excuses rather than money. Maybe national security? Maybe the fact that they are not obliged to do so?

Posted on Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:40 am

JOHNNYBEGOOD

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 354

WhiteRaven wrote:

JOHNNY, you should have entered your sn like a normal person, but anyway...

WhiteRaven wrote:

if you hadn't noticed, there are quite a few "religious zealots" who just love to talk about how psychic powers, and smurfs, and Barney&Friends come from the devil and are attempts to draw children into "occultic" beliefs.

True, but I prefer just to laugh at them.

WhiteRaven wrote:

now first that is retarded, and second, Occultic is not a word, google occultic and you'll find thousands of overzealous twats using the non-existant word, "occultic" and talking about how witches should still be burned.

Knowing that, how can you believe that the world is ready?

I see where you're coming from, but you must remember that there will always be people like that in the world, no matter what. Take, for example the weirdos who hold nazi-esque Harry Potter book bonfires. They would be most certainly afraid of something like psi. But, if enough people from the psi community could raise their voices and start a mainstream movement to spread their knowledge of psi ablities, then maybe they could be scrutanized seriously by the scientific community. And then maybe, just maybe, psi will become a commonplace practice in everyday life.

desg90 wrote:

I did not say that you are insecure about your religion. I said that you used a defense mechanism similar to that used to defend certain religions.

desg90 wrote:

I don't think it's all about your government, I've heard that even the URSS and China had their own psychic experiments, but I think they had other excuses rather than money. Maybe national security? Maybe the fact that they are not obliged to do so?

Russia and China are hardly known for their wisdom when it comes to appropriating tax money. And still, even if they did perform these experiments, don't you think, that if they were successful that they would have invested more time into performing more research on psi?

Posted on Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:49 am

SheepKing

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 728

Everyone,

I think the most viable explination is provided by Peebrain.

What does "Coming Out" entail?

Posted on Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:24 am

JOHNNYBEGOOD

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 354

SheepKing wrote:

Everyone,

I think the most viable explination is provided by Peebrain.

What does "Coming Out" entail?

Umm...what does it entail?

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