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straight up yo on Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:23 am

edwardHowl

Joined: 22 Jul 2006
Posts: 47

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hira_Ratan_Manek

he did a 211 and a 411 day fast, no food, under watch/study

my friend just sent it to me
gotta love the world

Posted on Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:46 am

UltimaRage

Joined: 30 Aug 2006
Posts: 146

Meditation is essential in fasting, since it slows down all of the bodily and mind processes, less energy is expended. We do not know enough about psi to know if it could sustain the body. You can program it to do some very cool things, but it remains to be seen if it affects the physical. I don't think that psi has any nutritional value.

Well, maybe, but not for your physical body, more for your mind, but only for balance and to promote better functioning. Food is still needed whatever the case may be. Of course, that over 1-year fast tells us how much we do not know about the subject to argue it endlessly.

After I read it though, it just says he claims that he did this, with water, and occasional tea, coffee, and buttermilk, which all contain nourishments in one form or another. It doesn't say how often he consumed said substances, either. I do not think that is very credible. It said that according to his website the fastings were under supervision. Biased source right there. It's his damn website, after all.

I believe it may be a useful source for using solar energy as a method of mind/body/spirit healing, but that is about it. It is said that our skin takes solar energy and creates nutrients from it when the light hits the skin. Dunno to what extent, just something I heard. Anyways, interesting thread.

Posted on Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:12 am

JOHNNYBEGOOD

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 354

With all due respect, edward, did you even bother to read the fucking article? Here's the part that our friend Edward didn't bother to mention:

wikipedia wrote:

However, contact with Dr. Andrew Newberg has revealed that Hira only stayed at University of Pennsylvania for brain scans on studies of meditation, not his ability to fast indefinitely. Dr. Andrew Newberg had denied ever undertaking the 130 day study. Dr. Andrew Newburg had explicitly forbidden his e-mail from being distributed. He is freely contactable by e-mail for those who wish to verify the above statements.

wikipedia on 'breathatarianism or something like that wrote:

The well-publicized deaths of 49-year-old Australian-born Scotland resident Verity Linn, 31-year-old Munich kindergarten teacher Timo Degen, and 53-year-old Melbourne resident Lani Marcia Roslyn Morris, while attempting to enter the Breatharian "diet," have drawn further criticism of the idea.[15] [16] Jim Vadim Pesnak, 63, and his wife Eugenia, 60, went to jail for three years on charges of manslaughter for their involvement in the death of Morris. Verity Lynn, the Scottish woman who inadvertently killed herself by choosing the Breatharian "diet" was a nominee for the 1999 Darwin Awards. She "took to the highlands", the article says, "with only a tent and her grit and determination." She died of hypothermia and dehydration, aggravated by lack of food. Jasmuheen claimed that her death was brought on by a psycho-spiritual problem, rather than a physiological one.

Posted on Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:10 am

freakinrican626

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 514

I am not a doctor, but I'm a Physical Therapy major and when people fast the body gets energy by using the fat and water reserves it has saved up.

To make this a little more scientific for you DanielH, how about we conduct experiments, edwardHowl, what if you went to a doctor, got a physical and find out how healthy you are and then go get a body composition test done. Fast for a month or how ever long you want and then when you're done go back to the doctor and find out what he says. It's as simple as that.

Posted on Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:41 pm

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

Isn't this thread kinda old? I have never seen it before...it's like it popped up over night. But I read it all.

Posted on Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:29 pm

edwardHowl

Joined: 22 Jul 2006
Posts: 47

yea, i just thought it would be nice to post the info on the guy who fasts for a long time, 'gathering energy from the sun and air'

its pretty funny, theres still people who flame

and yes johnny, thats why i seperated his name from the article, because there are alot of deaths circulating this group, but many of these deaths are people who go without water as well as food

honestly, people need to chill up some, im just posting this cause i thought it would be nice info for people to know, interesting
i dont need this, OMG CAN YOU FUCKING READ?! bs

Posted on Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:33 pm

edwardHowl

Joined: 22 Jul 2006
Posts: 47

i just thought this would be interesting

i dont care if this article is in this guys intrest, what his reasonings behind cheating or lying about this stuff would be, if hes doing it, im posting this cause i found it interesting and in relation to this, no need to flip out on me

Posted on Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:36 pm

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

edwardHowl wrote:

i dont need this, OMG CAN YOU FUCKING READ?! bs

Are you directing that towards me? If so, perhaps you should learn to chill out a bit. I was only stating that because I do not generally go through 4 pages of information to catch up to a thread unless it is quite interesting. That means I respect you and your thread. But if you just did insult me, you have lost some of my respect (as if you care). Well, I am sorry for your anger.

Posted on Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:44 pm

edwardHowl

Joined: 22 Jul 2006
Posts: 47

i was actually loosely quoting johnnie's

"With all due respect, edward, did you even bother to read the fucking article?"

you said nothing of this sort, i actually like how you approached it

Posted on Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:06 am

UltimaRage

Joined: 30 Aug 2006
Posts: 146

Fasting is eating no food at all. Even if it is liquid, it is still food as it provides nutrients just the same as food does. Your body expends less energy to digest it even, so you get more than you think from liquids. A true fast is the complete absence of all nutrients in food form, solids and liquids.

Posted on Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:30 pm

derricktheone

Joined: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 356

UltimaRage wrote:

I agree. Otherwise you would be able to just use a blender and liquify all your food. Very Happy

The only thing that should be allowed is regular water. Without any food or water your done in 10 days.

Posted on Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:21 am

DemonHunter

Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 100

Hi

Again this thread is ridiculous. Actually, in this forum it's even double ridiculous. Why you argue in this way i ask to some of the people out there. Why get so upset? It's just funny. You hear about a guy who can do stuff like that or at least he claims to being able to do it and you get so upset, because either you want that it's proven to be right or to be wrong.

I think when you master your own mind you can do some amazing stuff. Like Psychokinesis and all those stuff and eventually being able to control your own body. Normally, your body will get energy through food that is being digested and therefore giving energy to you, by burning the calories.
Now, imagine your mind being able to draw energy from for example the sunlight, which provides a big amount of energy and bypassing that energy directly to the physiological functions without the digesting part. Maybe you just got the idea of it wrong. I don't say it is easy, but i don't doubt that it can be done. By saying it is not possible or it is fluff or anything you don't change anything, except in your own mind. But you don't really get near the truth.

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