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Posted on Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:16 pm

bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

Theorist wrote:

psionics does NOT = to magic or magick....

totally diff, no spells wadsoeva involved.....

and who cares about other people, just practice it urself and be glad that the other dumb toots are somewad lower than u when u become a master psion

Magick is very similar to psionics.....Spells are one of the only differences but they use most of the same abilities with some of the same techniques, you just need to find two people with low fluff levels(one being a magick user and the other a psion) and compare them...

anyway, Simply talk to your parents about how if psionics is most likely a gift from God that most people dismiss as "witchcraft"..I mean the witches in the middle ages and stuff had nothing to do with this kind of stuff. Confused

Posted on Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:17 pm

Tankdown

Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 688

Witches in the past were just mostly innoect women being killed for things people didn't understand or being paranoid. Just look at Salam witch trails, there were others in england and such before then

(Don't take me as a expert)

Posted on Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:45 pm

sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

You know what's REALLY funny?

In a town called Salem, which is Hebrew for "peace", many women were executed for simple things, such as using herbal medicine or living alone, and were branded as "witches" because of those things.

Not very peaceful, was it?

Posted on Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:55 pm

Fakiti

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 336

you think that's funny? let's burn you at stake and see if you think it's funny. Evil or Very Mad

Trust me, it's not fun. Razz

Posted on Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:30 pm

sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

I meant funny like "strange", nof funny like "ha ha".

(10 points and my respect go to whoever can tell me where I stole that line from!)

Posted on Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:01 am

Drake

Joined: 30 Jan 2006
Posts: 8

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It all depends on how you define things, in the end they're more or less the same thing, in my opinion anyway (emphasis on the more or less, there are some differences), the major difference is in the technique more than anything.

Might want to watch that ego as well, possessing skills others don't doesn't necessarily put you above them in anything except perhaps your own mind.

Posted on Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:26 pm

mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

sgtpsion wrote:

I meant funny like "strange", nof funny like "ha ha".

(10 points and my respect go to whoever can tell me where I stole that line from!)

Fuck you, it's at the tip of my tongue...or fingers, as it be the internets.

:\

Futurama?

Posted on Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:39 pm

Lleu

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 153

[quote="sgtpsion"]I meant funny like "strange", nof funny like "ha ha".

(10 points and my respect go to whoever can tell me where I stole that line from!)[/quote]
End of the Fellowship of the Ring, being the First Part of the Lord of the Rings, by J.R.R. Tolkein.

Back on topic: Repeat after me. "Chapter and verse, please?"

Posted on Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:04 pm

sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

Well, actually, it was from WKRP. Less Nessman says "Funny like, 'ha ha', or funny like 'strange'?"

But yeah, his parents would most likely cite Exodus 22:18, which reads, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." (KJV)

It's an over-referenced passage, and apparently, nobody knows that what was translated as "witch" in the Hebrew text is a word meaning "a woman who uses magic against others." So really, Exodus 22:18 only applies to those who use magic for evil.

Posted on Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:40 pm

Lleu

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 153

[quote="sgtpsion"]Well, actually, it was from WKRP. Less Nessman says "Funny like, 'ha ha', or funny like 'strange'?"

But yeah, his parents would most likely cite Exodus 22:18, which reads, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." (KJV)

It's an over-referenced passage, and apparently, nobody knows that what was translated as "witch" in the Hebrew text is a word meaning "a woman who uses magic against others." So really, Exodus 22:18 only applies to those who use magic for evil.[/quote]
And, according to my study Bible, magick refers to summoning spirits and other entities.

Whatever, Frodo said it too.

Posted on Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:44 pm

sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

I was actually trying to emphasize the fact that the Hebrew word used in that passage refered to those who used magic(k) for evil. BTW, the biblical idea of evil is compromising others for your own selfish desires.

Posted on Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:11 pm

Lleu

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 153

But, in Deuteronomy (I'll find the exact reference later), it bans magick outrihgt. Along with enchanting, sorcery, and several othes.

Posted on Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:22 pm

Fakiti

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 336

Psionics- it's when you wear black and cut yourself
Magick- killing people from a distance with a tomahawk
Witchcraft/ Satanism- worshipping satan is so fun why don't we all do it? it's not like satan's evil or anything.... it's so fun

feaodj;lane is a made up word and is the result of me pounding on the keyboard, just like oaugihra is a made up word.

Posted on Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:45 pm

sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

Meh, each to his own. My girlfiend is a pagan, and does all that funky stuff. I don't mind, as long as it's not used to anyone else's detriment. I don't see why you should worry about it if it doesn't result in anyone else's detriment, and they're not consorting with the firey one.

And @ Lleu: Give me the reference, and I'll tell you if you're using an outdated version (aka KJV) of the Bible.

Posted on Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:37 am

mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

Fakiti wrote:

Psionics- direct manipulation of psi, i think you all know what psionics is

Magick- manipulation of psi through runes, magick staves, spells, etc.

Witchcraft/ Satanism- I think this would be what your parents are worried about. Basically, worshipping satan to get magick/ psychic powers. not good. Confused

so, basically, magick and psionics are very similar, although in magic you just say a word or think of a rune to use your energy in a certain way. No programming involved. It's already taken care of for you. In magick, the things you can do are based on 3 things:

1. your power (comes from practice, like psi)

2. the words/ runes you know

3. the amount of energy you can use at one time without being exhausted

it works because your just telling your psi what to do by using a rune or word. Smile

it's similar to psionics, tho, and so I don't see why the Bible would ban magick. I think it means satanism. or candle voodoo magick. stuff like that.

Assuming, of course, that Satan exists. Razz

All 3 do work the same way, though.

xD thats the problem you get when you try to 'hush' something. subcultures will pop up, with their own way of doing the same thing. In the end, the 'result' is the same, but the methods are different (except for the actual physical changes happening).

Thanks for putting into words what I couldn't >_> been trying to find a way to say something similar to what you said for ages.

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