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My parents...AKA the skepitics on Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:01 pm

dasewellsnake

Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Posts: 54

Ya, My parents are annoying the crap outa me. I have mentioned psi to them, and there like, "Jacob, thats witchcraft which goes agianst our religion" (we are christian). So like I am really mad. And also scared. Becuase I dont wanna go to hell. Is what I am doing considered witch craft. Also Should i tell my parents. Becuase they might ground me for life...Or worse think I am crazy.

Thanks
jacob
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Posted on Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:02 pm

neveza

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 1147

Actually, what you're doing is consider more science. Really, it's very edgy science, but it's there nonetheless. Don't worry. Psionics have more chances of being proven real than hell.
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Posted on Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:06 pm

derricktheone

Joined: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 356

No it's not witchcraft. And some of us don't believe in hell anyways. Let's not start any religion comments here Wink
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Posted on Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:12 pm

paraplayer

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 147

Think for yourself kid. Ask your parents why it's against there religeon and why you'll go to hell. Talk it over with them.
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Posted on Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:13 pm

sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

I'm gonna agree with everyone else who's posted thus far, and say that it's not witchcraft. Witchcraft has some similarities, yes, but the two are FAR different.

Personally, I got most of my abilities from prayer. So therefore, psi is a gift from God for me. And if it comes from God Himself, then by definition, you can't go to Hell for it!

But I'm gonna cut the religious talk. If you want to continue this, PM me.
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Re: My parents...AKA the skepitics on Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:38 pm

JOHNNYBEGOOD

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 354

dasewellsnake wrote:
Ya, My parents are annoying the crap outa me. I have mentioned psi to them, and there like, "Jacob, thats witchcraft which goes agianst our religion" (we are christian). So like I am really mad. And also scared. Becuase I dont wanna go to hell. Is what I am doing considered witch craft. Also Should i tell my parents. Becuase they might ground me for life...Or worse think I am crazy.

Thanks
jacob
LOL, witchcraft. Have they ever read The Crucible?
Tell them there's no relgious baggage attatched, and it's entirely pragmatic.
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Posted on Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:30 am

WhiteRaven

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 343

hell is translated from hades, a greek word meaning "without perception". it is not what most people think it is. I suggest you look around this site a bit. He can be a bit stupid, but he can also be fairly smart, and he knows the real translations pretty well.

now, you need to think for yourself, ask yourself questions about your beliefs, test them against each other, your ideas, your feelings. your mind should contain more than a single ancient book supposedly written by god. If it doesn't you might turn into a fundy. open your mind. your parents aren't the holders of infinite knowledge, and no offense, but they sound pretty stupid to me. If we were afraid we'd never learn anything.
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Posted on Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:50 pm

Fakiti

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 336

I'm also christian, and if you don't ask satan to move that psiwheel for ya, you won't go to hell. The bible talks about OBE's- tell that to your parents. Also, challenge them. Say, "what is witchcraft?" and then ask them, "how does psionics go against christianity".

I think that christians who think harry potter, psi, and beer are bad are very retarded. they're bad christians. my dad believes that there might be psychic people and knows that it doesn't go against our religion, but I still haven't told him about psionics... haha, my parents are always telling me to go get a hobby and they don't know what I've been doing all the time for the last 1.5 years- saving humanity and mingling with unseen mysterious powers. lol. Razz

Quote:
a single ancient book supposedly written by god
hmmm i thought it was written by people.... oh well whatever
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Re: My parents...AKA the skepitics on Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:54 pm

Roy

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 416

dasewellsnake wrote:
Ya, My parents are annoying the crap outa me. I have mentioned psi to them, and there like, "Jacob, thats witchcraft which goes agianst our religion" (we are christian). So like I am really mad. And also scared. Becuase I dont wanna go to hell. Is what I am doing considered witch craft. Also Should i tell my parents. Becuase they might ground me for life...Or worse think I am crazy.

Thanks
jacob


To be perfectly honest, the abilities sought after and used in psionics are also sought after and used in other forms of magick (which I guess would encompass witchcraft). I'll go against the advice that everyone else is telling you and recommend that perhaps you talk with your priest/reverend/congregation leader about this.

If you do, and he is accepting of this, understands that it's not witchcraft or evil or sinful, then you can probably convince him to speak with your parents about it. If your parents hear from him that it's not evil, then they will, in all likelihood, allow you to practice.

I feel that this would be a lot better than confrontation and blatantly challenging your parents beliefs. If they're to accept what you do, then they need to alter the beliefs they currently hold, and I feel that the persuasion of a priest will have a much greater impact than yours would.

Good luck.
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Posted on Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:26 pm

dasewellsnake

Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Posts: 54

Hey thanks for the comments, I will take all of them into consideration.
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Re: My parents...AKA the skepitics on Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:45 pm

sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

Roy wrote:
To be perfectly honest, the abilities sought after and used in psionics are also sought after and used in other forms of magick (which I guess would encompass witchcraft). I'll go against the advice that everyone else is telling you and recommend that perhaps you talk with your priest/reverend/congregation leader about this.

If you do, and he is accepting of this, understands that it's not witchcraft or evil or sinful, then you can probably convince him to speak with your parents about it. If your parents hear from him that it's not evil, then they will, in all likelihood, allow you to practice.

I feel that this would be a lot better than confrontation and blatantly challenging your parents beliefs. If they're to accept what you do, then they need to alter the beliefs they currently hold, and I feel that the persuasion of a priest will have a much greater impact than yours would.

Good luck.


Roy, you always have a way of making me look really stupid. I read your post and thought, "Man, why didn't I think of that?!"

But yeah, asking a priest would make sense. He's able to tell you what the faith says about it. I talked to my priest about it, and he was accepting, so the Anglican/Episcopalian church doesn't have anything against it, as far as I can discern.

But I say that if you pray about it, and ask God what HE says about it, then you'd be pretty well off as well.

But again, I'm gonna cut the religious talk. Saying too much is a really bad habit of mine here...
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Posted on Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:56 pm

bloodbath

Joined: 31 Jul 2006
Posts: 55

Your parents sound like conservative christians. My parents are very liberal and one of them is actually interested in psi (she has had multiple OBEs, has done telepathy, and has frequent precognitions).

I would suggest not mentioning psi to them at all. They sound like they would not accept it.
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Posted on Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:31 pm

mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

I would reccomend taking Roy's advice.

he IS an administrator after all.
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Posted on Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:25 am

Drake

Joined: 30 Jan 2006
Posts: 8

Actually, to be perfectly honest, I believe psionics more or less falls under the same umbrella the majority of other forms of magic and occult practices do, and as such is shunned by the mainstream church.

Your best bet is to just not tell them I guess? Psionics has the advantage over those other forms of magic etc. that it requires few to no expensive books/componants, or long, large and detailed ritual work, so if you have free net access, access to a book store (optional, but probably preferable), and a room with a lock on the door, then you should be fine.
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Posted on Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:27 am

Theorist

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 315

psionics does NOT = to magic or magick....

totally diff, no spells wadsoeva involved.....

and who cares about other people, just practice it urself and be glad that the other dumb toots are somewad lower than u when u become a master psion
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